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It's been a lazy kind of week as far as the writing goes.
I'd like to have written more ficlets for the Prompt Battle at Lost City Found, but my brain just isn't in gear for writing right now. I'm even struggling to edit my Big Bang - which I will have out to the betas before the weekend, whether or not the alphas get back to me. Otherwise, I've been trying to write Pegasus Ascendant and failing. I don't know if it's just been a long time since I wrote Elizabeth or what, but I'm struggling with her POV.
Two pinch-hits have been requested for the Thing-A-Thon with four delayed stories. Only two reneges out of forty-one is an awesome ratio! (I don't count the people who withdrew and let me know: that's a different kettle of fish, IMO.)
I've read through everything that's being posted; I'll post my recs in a couple of days (although you could just save time and check out the lot: Masterlist! Masterlist!)
You know when there are things you should do, but you really can't be arsed to do them?
Every year, I promise myself I'll be more active in fandom, talk to new people, venture out of my qwirky little corner of SGA fandom. Then the premiere comes, the fandom shoots its load early and there's spooge everywhere. It's one big clusterfuck of fans for whom the Big Anxiety Has Hit: Will This Year Bring The Onset Of What They Want To See Or Their Worst Nightmare??? That cluster usually includes me, freaking away, btw.
But each year, I think "This year, I'll be more active in fandom."
So I venture out into a few discussions, argue with a few fans who seem to be watching an entirely different show, realise that it's pretty much just me wandering out into the broader reaches of fandom with my John/Teyla!OTP flag hoisted just beneath the TeylaRules! flag and generally retire back to my (otherwise) quiet little corner.
So far this year, I've expressed the opinion that it's possible for Teyla to sleep with Kanaan while caring for John without her being Out To Break John's Poor Tender Heart, disagreed that Teyla's relationship with Kanaan is a Sharp About-Turn Of Romantic Direction For Her, haven't panicked about the possible John/Teyla/Kanaan love triangle and am not going to flip my shit over it, have preferences regarding the Ronon/Keller/Rodney love triangle but am not going to flip my shit over it, and have engaged in a discussion as whether or not SGA is innately colonial in it's perspective (I think it is - not intentionally, but certainly in a Manifest Destiny kind of way), and it's not even the bloody second episode!
Why are there not more people who think that a woman can care about two men at the same time in different ways, even if she's only fucking one of them? Or people who can conceive that Earth morality does not apply to Teyla considering she's from Pegasus and any bigotry displayed is on the part of the writers and viewers, not the alleged moral deficiencies of the character herself? Why is it so impossible for it to be an and gate, not an or gate? *takes off her geek hat*
Did I mention that we haven't yet gotten the 2nd episode?
Honestly, people, I am an introvert. A recluse. A grumpy old lady with cats. Okay, so maybe not old. (Is over-thirty old these days? Sometimes it feels that way!) But there is definitely a cat. All this interaction Is Not Good For Me. It makes me Tetchy. (All right, it makes me More Tetchy.)
I know I should get out there, make a few more friends (hello to the new people - I don't know you just yet, but I hope we'll get to talk), nudge a few John&Teyla-ish souls towards John/Teyla.
But right now, I just can't be arsed.
Mmf.
I'd like to have written more ficlets for the Prompt Battle at Lost City Found, but my brain just isn't in gear for writing right now. I'm even struggling to edit my Big Bang - which I will have out to the betas before the weekend, whether or not the alphas get back to me. Otherwise, I've been trying to write Pegasus Ascendant and failing. I don't know if it's just been a long time since I wrote Elizabeth or what, but I'm struggling with her POV.
Two pinch-hits have been requested for the Thing-A-Thon with four delayed stories. Only two reneges out of forty-one is an awesome ratio! (I don't count the people who withdrew and let me know: that's a different kettle of fish, IMO.)
I've read through everything that's being posted; I'll post my recs in a couple of days (although you could just save time and check out the lot: Masterlist! Masterlist!)
You know when there are things you should do, but you really can't be arsed to do them?
Every year, I promise myself I'll be more active in fandom, talk to new people, venture out of my qwirky little corner of SGA fandom. Then the premiere comes, the fandom shoots its load early and there's spooge everywhere. It's one big clusterfuck of fans for whom the Big Anxiety Has Hit: Will This Year Bring The Onset Of What They Want To See Or Their Worst Nightmare??? That cluster usually includes me, freaking away, btw.
But each year, I think "This year, I'll be more active in fandom."
So I venture out into a few discussions, argue with a few fans who seem to be watching an entirely different show, realise that it's pretty much just me wandering out into the broader reaches of fandom with my John/Teyla!OTP flag hoisted just beneath the TeylaRules! flag and generally retire back to my (otherwise) quiet little corner.
So far this year, I've expressed the opinion that it's possible for Teyla to sleep with Kanaan while caring for John without her being Out To Break John's Poor Tender Heart, disagreed that Teyla's relationship with Kanaan is a Sharp About-Turn Of Romantic Direction For Her, haven't panicked about the possible John/Teyla/Kanaan love triangle and am not going to flip my shit over it, have preferences regarding the Ronon/Keller/Rodney love triangle but am not going to flip my shit over it, and have engaged in a discussion as whether or not SGA is innately colonial in it's perspective (I think it is - not intentionally, but certainly in a Manifest Destiny kind of way), and it's not even the bloody second episode!
Why are there not more people who think that a woman can care about two men at the same time in different ways, even if she's only fucking one of them? Or people who can conceive that Earth morality does not apply to Teyla considering she's from Pegasus and any bigotry displayed is on the part of the writers and viewers, not the alleged moral deficiencies of the character herself? Why is it so impossible for it to be an and gate, not an or gate? *takes off her geek hat*
Did I mention that we haven't yet gotten the 2nd episode?
Honestly, people, I am an introvert. A recluse. A grumpy old lady with cats. Okay, so maybe not old. (Is over-thirty old these days? Sometimes it feels that way!) But there is definitely a cat. All this interaction Is Not Good For Me. It makes me Tetchy. (All right, it makes me More Tetchy.)
I know I should get out there, make a few more friends (hello to the new people - I don't know you just yet, but I hope we'll get to talk), nudge a few John&Teyla-ish souls towards John/Teyla.
But right now, I just can't be arsed.
Mmf.
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Don't get me wrong, the actors are great guys and I did have a big David Hewlett thing but I think maybe I have lost that love as I just don't care much anymore - overload = burnout and I'm not seeing eye to eye with most of fandom anymore, if I ever was.
I would in fact like discussions without that pair (slash or gen) dominating the conversation and that's few and fair between. So I sort of settle for life in the delusional McWeir world of SGA and occasional forrays into the less appreciated characters/pairings.
Anyhow, nothing wrong with having a cat(s) or with not being arsed/introversion. Fandom should be fun, not masses of hard work (unless you want it to be).
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Introvert like whoa. I can keep up with a few people, and am fine if some of those few aren't like-minded; but I have a hard time keeping up with a lot of people, and if there are lots of people to keep up with I don't manage so well with the not-like-minded ones. Especially when the point of contention revolves around the Great and Wonderful McShep. So. *anti-social*
Why are there not more people who think that a woman can care about two men at the same time in different ways, even if she's only fucking one of them? Or people who can conceive that Earth morality does not apply to Teyla considering she's from Pegasus
Seriously. The first is one of those blindingly obvious things about human relationships in general; the second seems like...isn't that part of what's fun about a show set in another galaxy? That the people from that galaxy might be different than what we're used to?
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Oh, absolutely!
I regularly burnout; I just keep getting up and picking up again. Sucker for punishment, perhaps; or just bloody stubborn.
Nothing wrong with McWeir, either! :)
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Not to mention I NEED to rewatch S1 for my
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This is why we're friends. THIS IS WHY WE'RE FRIENDS, OMG!
Although I'd reverse the order of favourite characters. Pfft. Small bananas. *g*
I can keep up with a few people, and am fine if some of those few aren't like-minded; but I have a hard time keeping up with a lot of people, and if there are lots of people to keep up with I don't manage so well with the not-like-minded ones.
Me, too. *hugs*
And you've got a real life and a family to deal with on top of that. *shakes head* I wouldn't be dealing with fandom half as much as I was if I wasn't single. (The cat is mostly content to sit on the mouse or in front of the heater and watch me.)
See, I'm rather pleased that the John/Teyla relationship isn't clear-cut. I don't think I'd like it half so much if it was "nothing stands in the way of their true love" - he's emotionally-reserved goods, she sees him as more of an ally than a lover, there's a lot more hanging on this than just a relationship, and I can fully understand why Teyla would choose someone from her childhood who made a move towards her if she wanted John but figured he wasn't going to get his act together.
It's exactly what you said - it's human relationship. Complicated. Messy. Emotionally fraught. But you can't avoid them - and you can't avoid SNAFUs in them - anymore than you can avoid breathing.
And, you know, even talking about John/Teyla/Kanaan as a love triangle is way more than TPTB ever did with the Jack/Sam/Pete triangle in SG1. Although that was more of a quadrangle: Kerry/Jack/Sam/Pete.
*ponders* I wonder if they'll intro Larrin as the fourth-side of the quadrangle.
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I agree with a lot of what you're saying. Leading up to this season, I've taken a step back from fandom and pairings and concentrated on the character and the team; it feels better that way. I've taken a critical eye to the Rodney/Ronon/Keller thing, mainly because I DON'T like Keller, the idea of her with Ronon is just weird and Rodney... well, he's Rodney and because TPTB love him so much, he'll get the girl in the end after some nice angsty soul searching.
As for John/Teyla/Kanaan love triangle; I just want things to be explained and if it's satisfactoralllylylyly (Sp?LOL) explained, then I'm fine with Teyla being with Kanaan. What people forget is that despite everything, there hasn't actually been a moment where one or the other of them has said "I have feelings for John/Teyla." I take the scene from TLG with a pinch of salt, considering the dude in Sheppard's head was just trying to stay alive and was playing with emotions that John may feel.
I don't know about Teyla calling her kid after John; I think it's just too obvious to be a shippy thing. It's definitely a respect thing, a friendship thing, but... calling your kid after someone you have a thing for may be a little cliche for me.
I'm a recluse, too, when it comes to fandom. And right now, I can't be bothered. I didn't really involve myself with S&R talk, round two but I can only hope that episode two renews my chatty habits.
When are you going to try and pencil something for our fic tennis/Search & Rescue? I'd love to read it :)
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Being an introvert myself, I can understand you. Sometimes I feel rather lonely in fandom. (I'm lucky though, SGA isn't my favorite fandom. That makes it easier!) And some of the discussions really annoy me. *sigh* I've got enough rl stuff going on that I just can't spend too much time arguing with some people.
Btw, you were the one who made me start reading John/Teyla and John&Teyla! *g*
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*snorts* Smartass. ;)
I suspect that, for a lot of fans, there's this "Stargate Atlantis" in their head that may or may not bear any resemblance to the show. There's this imaginary show that they see where everything John does is motivated by his deep and abiding love for Rodney/Elizabeth/Teyla/Ronon/Zelenka/Carson/Whoever, and when the "real show" doesn't agree with that, fans get narked.
So there are people who are 100% convinced that John and Rodney are secretly in love with each other and that their friendship is hiding a sexual relationship. Therefore, John imagining a wine-and-candles dinner with Teyla is not romantic, because he's already involved with someone else.
(It's amazing how many people have decried the wine and candles as being in any way romantic simply because Ford shows up in the middle of it. I'm slightly boggled. If it was John and Rodney with wine and candles? Or John and Elizabeth? Whatever their OTP - would it be romantic then? Dude. Ostriches in fandom! Everywhere!)
I'm in full agreement that Teyla calling her kid after John is a respect thing, not a romance thing.
In the show, I honestly do not see that Teyla has given John romantic encouragement over the years. She is friends with him, their relationship is close and friendly with hints of intimate, but she's never encouraged him. I think that John's more aware of his liking Teyla, but has personal emotional reasons for holding back - partly related to his first marriage and his belief that he's "no good at that kind of thing", and partly related to the fact that Teyla has never encouraged him and now has someone else (two, really - Torran and Kanaan) in her life who has a claim on her.
Honestly, I love John/Teyla and John&Teyla. Even if Teyla ends up with Kanaan, if she loves him, if someone on the writing staff loses their brain and writes fluffy, mushy, gushy Teyla/Kanaan in the show, I bet that we will still continue to see more John-and-Teyla in the show than we will Teyla-and-Kanaan.
The team and its relationships are always more important to the writers (and the viewing audience) than external relationships. The fan audience may desperately want their favourite characters to get together and will bend themselves into pretzels to persuade themselves that they're OMGSEKRITLYINLOVE, but the writers aren't like that.
Fic tennis... Um. I was working on that before the Thing-A-Thon and the Big Bang came due. I'll get back to it if I can... :)
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See, I'm always a little worried by this. :) It's good to know that I've persuaded some people into the John-and-Teyla dynamic - for a while, all I seemed to be able to do was attract people to other pairings I wrote, with all of them dismissing John/Teyla outright - but on the other hand, it's a touch scary, too!
I think fandom is a lonely place unless you're in a majority clique of some kind. John/Teyla's seen quite a few people pass from its groups, partly because there's not much response to any stories that people write, and partly because there's no society here on LJ (which tends to be where the skilled people hang out).
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SRSLY. *clings*
See, I'm rather pleased that the John/Teyla relationship isn't clear-cut.
I agree. I'm not a J/T shipper (I'm not really a hardcore anyone shipper, frankly), but I really like the possibility, if that makes sense. I love the little moments on the show that hint in that direction. I'm like that with any characters where I like the idea of them getting together -- not being clear cut is a thrill and a lot more fun, imho. That's also why I generally tend to like when the characters have flings with other people when there is still something that could be interpreted as sexual tension between them. I...don't know. It's just far more interesting and appealing to me, for some reason.
Complicated. Messy. Emotionally fraught.
Yep, that.
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In shows like, say, Bones, I'd say that they lost a bit of the plot when they upped the Brennan/Booth dynamic in Season Three - on one hand, it was cute, on the other...it was too much, y'know? I liked it much better when it was looks and comments and personal space in S1 and S2. S3 became too much about "the ship", and became overblown and "okay, I can see the big neon signpostings from halfway into the next state".
I am in love with Bones S2, as much because they're in relationships with other people and yet their bond is still so very there. That's pretty much what I'm hoping for in SGA: Teyla's torn between John and Kanaan, and John's wondering if he shouldn't just get Larrin in the sack, but they're still friends and team-mates and intimate in ways that Kanaan and Larrin just don't get - can't get, because of their personalities and their priorities.
Of course, the Stargate PTB are not Hart Hanson. Ham-fistedness will undoubtedly ensue, combined with a heavy dose of *wince* and "oh, you just signed your report card full of FAIL right there".
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Heh. I feel like George from 'Dead Like Me' right now. "Is it shallow to like someone because they think like you?"
Seriously, I know exactly what you're talking about. And I wouldn't worry about it. More and more, I realize it's just not worth it to venture out into larger fandom. In fact, when I find myself in a new fandom, I try to find my little corner as quickly as possible and just stay there. I'm happy there. I get to talk about things I care about with people who care about the same things. Sure, there's differences in opinion and plenty of little bits of the rest of the fandom creep in too, but that just keeps things a little interesting. It's just not fun going to places where everything I say gets ignored* in favor of the 1000th post exlaiming what a slut Keller is for asking Rodney out after Ronon got a crush on her, while John's kirking is obviously a desperate cover for Teh Ghey.
* = except for the "funny" bits, where I say something about J/T, like "I ship it like a fucking freight train." Those bits get a lol and then are appropriated for wider McShep usage.
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*snorts*
Ah, the joy of fandom. Where imaginary relationship depths are reality!
And I'm not just talking about McShep. Half of the kerfuffle over the last 1/2 of Season 4 from the J/T fans is because they think that Teyla has outright betrayed John.
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Bleh. Don't remind me. Alas, even our small little corners are not completely safe. However, I'll still take doing battle with those morons over hanging out on boards (*cough*TWoP!*cough*) where Teyla's assumed to be useless T&A right from the get go just because she has a vagina. At least she has half a chance with the other crowd.
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At this point in the series, Teyla's most virulent decriers are largely those who want John with someone else.
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Don't get me wrong, the actors are great guys and I did have a big David Hewlett thing but I think maybe I have lost that love as I just don't care much anymore - overload = burnout and I'm not seeing eye to eye with most of fandom anymore, if I ever was.
I would in fact like discussions without that pair (slash or gen) dominating the conversation and that's few and fair between. So I sort of settle for life in the delusional McWeir world of SGA and occasional forrays into the less appreciated characters/pairings.
Anyhow, nothing wrong with having a cat(s) or with not being arsed/introversion. Fandom should be fun, not masses of hard work (unless you want it to be).
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Introvert like whoa. I can keep up with a few people, and am fine if some of those few aren't like-minded; but I have a hard time keeping up with a lot of people, and if there are lots of people to keep up with I don't manage so well with the not-like-minded ones. Especially when the point of contention revolves around the Great and Wonderful McShep. So. *anti-social*
Why are there not more people who think that a woman can care about two men at the same time in different ways, even if she's only fucking one of them? Or people who can conceive that Earth morality does not apply to Teyla considering she's from Pegasus
Seriously. The first is one of those blindingly obvious things about human relationships in general; the second seems like...isn't that part of what's fun about a show set in another galaxy? That the people from that galaxy might be different than what we're used to?
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Oh, absolutely!
I regularly burnout; I just keep getting up and picking up again. Sucker for punishment, perhaps; or just bloody stubborn.
Nothing wrong with McWeir, either! :)
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Not to mention I NEED to rewatch S1 for my
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This is why we're friends. THIS IS WHY WE'RE FRIENDS, OMG!
Although I'd reverse the order of favourite characters. Pfft. Small bananas. *g*
I can keep up with a few people, and am fine if some of those few aren't like-minded; but I have a hard time keeping up with a lot of people, and if there are lots of people to keep up with I don't manage so well with the not-like-minded ones.
Me, too. *hugs*
And you've got a real life and a family to deal with on top of that. *shakes head* I wouldn't be dealing with fandom half as much as I was if I wasn't single. (The cat is mostly content to sit on the mouse or in front of the heater and watch me.)
See, I'm rather pleased that the John/Teyla relationship isn't clear-cut. I don't think I'd like it half so much if it was "nothing stands in the way of their true love" - he's emotionally-reserved goods, she sees him as more of an ally than a lover, there's a lot more hanging on this than just a relationship, and I can fully understand why Teyla would choose someone from her childhood who made a move towards her if she wanted John but figured he wasn't going to get his act together.
It's exactly what you said - it's human relationship. Complicated. Messy. Emotionally fraught. But you can't avoid them - and you can't avoid SNAFUs in them - anymore than you can avoid breathing.
And, you know, even talking about John/Teyla/Kanaan as a love triangle is way more than TPTB ever did with the Jack/Sam/Pete triangle in SG1. Although that was more of a quadrangle: Kerry/Jack/Sam/Pete.
*ponders* I wonder if they'll intro Larrin as the fourth-side of the quadrangle.
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I agree with a lot of what you're saying. Leading up to this season, I've taken a step back from fandom and pairings and concentrated on the character and the team; it feels better that way. I've taken a critical eye to the Rodney/Ronon/Keller thing, mainly because I DON'T like Keller, the idea of her with Ronon is just weird and Rodney... well, he's Rodney and because TPTB love him so much, he'll get the girl in the end after some nice angsty soul searching.
As for John/Teyla/Kanaan love triangle; I just want things to be explained and if it's satisfactoralllylylyly (Sp?LOL) explained, then I'm fine with Teyla being with Kanaan. What people forget is that despite everything, there hasn't actually been a moment where one or the other of them has said "I have feelings for John/Teyla." I take the scene from TLG with a pinch of salt, considering the dude in Sheppard's head was just trying to stay alive and was playing with emotions that John may feel.
I don't know about Teyla calling her kid after John; I think it's just too obvious to be a shippy thing. It's definitely a respect thing, a friendship thing, but... calling your kid after someone you have a thing for may be a little cliche for me.
I'm a recluse, too, when it comes to fandom. And right now, I can't be bothered. I didn't really involve myself with S&R talk, round two but I can only hope that episode two renews my chatty habits.
When are you going to try and pencil something for our fic tennis/Search & Rescue? I'd love to read it :)
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Being an introvert myself, I can understand you. Sometimes I feel rather lonely in fandom. (I'm lucky though, SGA isn't my favorite fandom. That makes it easier!) And some of the discussions really annoy me. *sigh* I've got enough rl stuff going on that I just can't spend too much time arguing with some people.
Btw, you were the one who made me start reading John/Teyla and John&Teyla! *g*
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*snorts* Smartass. ;)
I suspect that, for a lot of fans, there's this "Stargate Atlantis" in their head that may or may not bear any resemblance to the show. There's this imaginary show that they see where everything John does is motivated by his deep and abiding love for Rodney/Elizabeth/Teyla/Ronon/Zelenka/Carson/Whoever, and when the "real show" doesn't agree with that, fans get narked.
So there are people who are 100% convinced that John and Rodney are secretly in love with each other and that their friendship is hiding a sexual relationship. Therefore, John imagining a wine-and-candles dinner with Teyla is not romantic, because he's already involved with someone else.
(It's amazing how many people have decried the wine and candles as being in any way romantic simply because Ford shows up in the middle of it. I'm slightly boggled. If it was John and Rodney with wine and candles? Or John and Elizabeth? Whatever their OTP - would it be romantic then? Dude. Ostriches in fandom! Everywhere!)
I'm in full agreement that Teyla calling her kid after John is a respect thing, not a romance thing.
In the show, I honestly do not see that Teyla has given John romantic encouragement over the years. She is friends with him, their relationship is close and friendly with hints of intimate, but she's never encouraged him. I think that John's more aware of his liking Teyla, but has personal emotional reasons for holding back - partly related to his first marriage and his belief that he's "no good at that kind of thing", and partly related to the fact that Teyla has never encouraged him and now has someone else (two, really - Torran and Kanaan) in her life who has a claim on her.
Honestly, I love John/Teyla and John&Teyla. Even if Teyla ends up with Kanaan, if she loves him, if someone on the writing staff loses their brain and writes fluffy, mushy, gushy Teyla/Kanaan in the show, I bet that we will still continue to see more John-and-Teyla in the show than we will Teyla-and-Kanaan.
The team and its relationships are always more important to the writers (and the viewing audience) than external relationships. The fan audience may desperately want their favourite characters to get together and will bend themselves into pretzels to persuade themselves that they're OMGSEKRITLYINLOVE, but the writers aren't like that.
Fic tennis... Um. I was working on that before the Thing-A-Thon and the Big Bang came due. I'll get back to it if I can... :)
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See, I'm always a little worried by this. :) It's good to know that I've persuaded some people into the John-and-Teyla dynamic - for a while, all I seemed to be able to do was attract people to other pairings I wrote, with all of them dismissing John/Teyla outright - but on the other hand, it's a touch scary, too!
I think fandom is a lonely place unless you're in a majority clique of some kind. John/Teyla's seen quite a few people pass from its groups, partly because there's not much response to any stories that people write, and partly because there's no society here on LJ (which tends to be where the skilled people hang out).
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SRSLY. *clings*
See, I'm rather pleased that the John/Teyla relationship isn't clear-cut.
I agree. I'm not a J/T shipper (I'm not really a hardcore anyone shipper, frankly), but I really like the possibility, if that makes sense. I love the little moments on the show that hint in that direction. I'm like that with any characters where I like the idea of them getting together -- not being clear cut is a thrill and a lot more fun, imho. That's also why I generally tend to like when the characters have flings with other people when there is still something that could be interpreted as sexual tension between them. I...don't know. It's just far more interesting and appealing to me, for some reason.
Complicated. Messy. Emotionally fraught.
Yep, that.
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In shows like, say, Bones, I'd say that they lost a bit of the plot when they upped the Brennan/Booth dynamic in Season Three - on one hand, it was cute, on the other...it was too much, y'know? I liked it much better when it was looks and comments and personal space in S1 and S2. S3 became too much about "the ship", and became overblown and "okay, I can see the big neon signpostings from halfway into the next state".
I am in love with Bones S2, as much because they're in relationships with other people and yet their bond is still so very there. That's pretty much what I'm hoping for in SGA: Teyla's torn between John and Kanaan, and John's wondering if he shouldn't just get Larrin in the sack, but they're still friends and team-mates and intimate in ways that Kanaan and Larrin just don't get - can't get, because of their personalities and their priorities.
Of course, the Stargate PTB are not Hart Hanson. Ham-fistedness will undoubtedly ensue, combined with a heavy dose of *wince* and "oh, you just signed your report card full of FAIL right there".
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Heh. I feel like George from 'Dead Like Me' right now. "Is it shallow to like someone because they think like you?"
Seriously, I know exactly what you're talking about. And I wouldn't worry about it. More and more, I realize it's just not worth it to venture out into larger fandom. In fact, when I find myself in a new fandom, I try to find my little corner as quickly as possible and just stay there. I'm happy there. I get to talk about things I care about with people who care about the same things. Sure, there's differences in opinion and plenty of little bits of the rest of the fandom creep in too, but that just keeps things a little interesting. It's just not fun going to places where everything I say gets ignored* in favor of the 1000th post exlaiming what a slut Keller is for asking Rodney out after Ronon got a crush on her, while John's kirking is obviously a desperate cover for Teh Ghey.
* = except for the "funny" bits, where I say something about J/T, like "I ship it like a fucking freight train." Those bits get a lol and then are appropriated for wider McShep usage.
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*snorts*
Ah, the joy of fandom. Where imaginary relationship depths are reality!
And I'm not just talking about McShep. Half of the kerfuffle over the last 1/2 of Season 4 from the J/T fans is because they think that Teyla has outright betrayed John.
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Bleh. Don't remind me. Alas, even our small little corners are not completely safe. However, I'll still take doing battle with those morons over hanging out on boards (*cough*TWoP!*cough*) where Teyla's assumed to be useless T&A right from the get go just because she has a vagina. At least she has half a chance with the other crowd.
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At this point in the series, Teyla's most virulent decriers are largely those who want John with someone else.
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