question for those more conversant with Frozen than I am

[tielan]

Saw 'Frozen' yesterday thanks to the TV screen on my dentist's ceiling while at my appointment yesterday. Have a few questions.

1. So Hans was from another kingdom but kind of insinuated himself into Elsa/Anna's kingdom by getting himself engaged to Anna?

2. Did the rock trolls have any purpose at all or were they just there for the song about pairing up and getting married?

3. Nobody was going to actually check that Anna was dead, she was just dead on Hans' say-so? Like, NOBODY?

4.Was it just me, or did the ending feel somewhat anticlimactic - particularly because Hans only revealed himself to be evil in the last, oh, 10 minutes of the movie?

Comments

[nrgburst]

1. Yes. He was 12th in line for the throne, so he basically had zero shot of inheriting the throne back home.

2. The Rock Trolls had an understanding of magic, and Papi (the elder?) originally treated Elsa's ice magic damage that she did to Anna when they were little. Did you miss the first portion of the movie?

3. Lol I guess so.

4. Naw, I thought the ending was perfect BECAUSE Disney movies are always Romantic Love Saves The Day tropey and Frozen finally deconstructed that.

[tielan]

Yes, I missed the first part of the movie. I came in right around the time Kristof was telling Anna to get her feet off his sled dash.

Was it nice to not have a Romantic Love Saves The Day ending? Sure. But they had The Power Of Family for Lilo And Stitch, Believe In Yourself for Moana, Zootopia, and Big Hero 6, to say nothing of my favourite Disney animated movie from 'childhood' (okay, so I was 22), which was Mulan, so I'm probably a little bit inured/oblivious to True Love's Kiss...

[nrgburst]

Ah, makes sense.

Yeah, I guess I was less jaded with regards to non-tropey Disney when it came out in 2013. XD

[tielan]

I think the last one I watched that had True Love's Kiss was Enchanted which was mostly a rollicking good ride.

[weaselett]

2 - The rock trolls had a point at the beginning, then reappeared (they must have face palmed massively over anna and elsa's parents' interpretation of what they were told....)

3. Despite the theme of the movie....a man said so, so it was so, seems to be a thing in Frozen (like, Anna and Elsa are almost the only women in that film *face palm*)

4. A little? But Hans kinda outs himself a bit behaviour wise before that....i guess it has pay off.

[tielan]

Ah, that explains how they just came out of nowhere with no exposition. I thought that maybe they'd been introduced earlier, but didn't have any way to tell.

Hans' heel face turn felt really abrupt. I mean, he was obviously Not The One for Anna, but apart from that, he seemed mostly benign. Admittedly, I couldn't hear all the dialogue, I had to make parts of it up as I went, so it's possible that I missed the Clues.

[karmageddon]

ALL THIS, PLUS

The Hans storyline is a bit dark for a kids movie, y/y?

Moana is so much better!

[tielan]

I really liked Moana - particularly the revelation that Te Ka was Te Fiti without the heart. (And 'We Know The Way' is just the best song ever. I want to learn the Pacific Islander part, but I think I need to read the syllables.)

[beatrice_otter]

Here is a cover by a group from Tahiti, all in Polynesian with subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yn9mKqDuHM

[schneefink]

My favorite crazy fan theory about "Frozen" is that the trolls turned Hans evil because Kristof had a crush on Anna and they wanted to "help."

[tielan]

That is definitely an 'out there' theory. Although I guess exactly how it would be accomplished is a question...

[anoyo]

1. Yup. The count guy was with him and his family, and with both Anna and Elsa gone: power! I'm not going to say it makes sense, but Disney!logic follows.

2. Meet the family? I got nothin'. They were adorable.

3. NOPE. No one would check. Who would think to do that? After all, the only even remotely intelligent characters in the entire movie were out of town.

4. The ending wrapped itself in a neat little ball and rolled on down the road. How there are so many spin-offs is completely beyond me.

I worked in residential treatment for 8 years, and I've seen this movie like 20 times. I've got Frozen Stockholm Syndrome. It's bad.

[tielan]

4. There are spin-offs?

[anoyo]

So, so many.

[tielan]

...ugh...