I had forgotten the convo in Sunday, but it certainly does point to Kanaan being the man she meant.
*g* Actually, I think the conversation in 'Sunday' points entirely to John being the one that Teyla has the crush on.
"I should hope so" could ring for John as much as one of her own people. The fact is that Teyla should know John better (as his team-mate and friend) than a random scientist in the city does. Dr. Hewston probably knew 'Colonel Sheppard' by reputation more than anything else.
The fact that she mentions the customs of her people also works against Kanaan. If it was Kanaan she was interested in, she wouldn't bother bringing up the customs of her people. Kanaan would know he'd have to make the first move, and she wouldn't feel the need to emphasise it. If she's interested in him and he's not making the first move, then obviously he's not interested. End of story.
As to Teyla being flexible and adaptive... We all have our flexible areas, where we can adapt, and our areas where we like to follow tradition. Sometimes we're not even aware of how strongly we need them.
I have a friend who got married nearly a year ago. Neither she or her husband are even faintly religious, but when they were talking marriage, he asked her, "Do you want the wedding in a church?" Her first instinct was to ask, "Why would we want it in a church?" And then she paused, thought about it and realised that something in her wanted to have the marriage acknowledged by a higher power.
Tradition. We don't always flip our own switches. I believe that Teyla didn't know how firmly this switch was flipped until she realised John wasn't going to make a move, and she couldn't bring herself to make the first approach.
Think about what we've seen of Teyla in the show. She's never encouraged anyone. Never flirted with anyone. Her manners are straight down the line, friendship, friendly, caring, but never flirty. She shoots straight - it's instinctive in her.
Maybe Teyla wasn't willing to rock the boat for the "usual reasons": they're friends, it's a good friendship, they work together, it's not traditionally allowed in John's organisation. Add to that any of her personal estimations of John's emotional state, and then layer on top of that her people's custom that the man makes the first move.
It's not any one single thing, it's the whole picture, synergistically connected.
Even retrospectively, a crush on Kanaan doesn't gel. In 'Missing' she tells Jennifer that they've been friends for a long time, but this development is recent and new. She doesn't say she's been hoping for it for a long time, or that she's cared about him a long time; she says they're friends and this development is new.
There's also a shyness in her, a hesitation that I read as a kind of embarrassment, which I take to mean she never saw this one coming - it blindsided her.
No, I'm still completely convinced that the conversation in 'Sunday' is about liking John.
My reference to 'Sunday' was entirely about "the man making the first move" which is clearly important to Teyla in this situation. And ties in with Kanaan making the first move and John not making the first move.
So, um, you got the right scene, but we're at 180degree interpretations of it.
*g*
What I hate is character bashing, choosing to accuse a character of being a dirty, cheating whore on little to no evidence of wrongdoing and screeching about it all over fandom.
Angst triangles? I got no problem with. Your bulletproof kink? It's actually mine, too. *g* (But, again, no marital cheating. Big no-no.)
Bitching on a woman for choosing between two men...that's another issue. We're talking about fics where John takes it out on Teyla that she slept with Kanaan, in spite of the fact that they had no explicit agreement between them. We're talking about fics where Teyla's tearful and apologetic that she 'betrayed' John by sleeping with Kanaan and bearing his child.
That's the kind of attitude I'm seeing - in fic and in post. And to tell you the truth, I'm feeling seriously pissed off about it.
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*g* Actually, I think the conversation in 'Sunday' points entirely to John being the one that Teyla has the crush on.
"I should hope so" could ring for John as much as one of her own people. The fact is that Teyla should know John better (as his team-mate and friend) than a random scientist in the city does. Dr. Hewston probably knew 'Colonel Sheppard' by reputation more than anything else.
The fact that she mentions the customs of her people also works against Kanaan. If it was Kanaan she was interested in, she wouldn't bother bringing up the customs of her people. Kanaan would know he'd have to make the first move, and she wouldn't feel the need to emphasise it. If she's interested in him and he's not making the first move, then obviously he's not interested. End of story.
As to Teyla being flexible and adaptive... We all have our flexible areas, where we can adapt, and our areas where we like to follow tradition. Sometimes we're not even aware of how strongly we need them.
I have a friend who got married nearly a year ago. Neither she or her husband are even faintly religious, but when they were talking marriage, he asked her, "Do you want the wedding in a church?" Her first instinct was to ask, "Why would we want it in a church?" And then she paused, thought about it and realised that something in her wanted to have the marriage acknowledged by a higher power.
Tradition. We don't always flip our own switches. I believe that Teyla didn't know how firmly this switch was flipped until she realised John wasn't going to make a move, and she couldn't bring herself to make the first approach.
Think about what we've seen of Teyla in the show. She's never encouraged anyone. Never flirted with anyone. Her manners are straight down the line, friendship, friendly, caring, but never flirty. She shoots straight - it's instinctive in her.
Maybe Teyla wasn't willing to rock the boat for the "usual reasons": they're friends, it's a good friendship, they work together, it's not traditionally allowed in John's organisation. Add to that any of her personal estimations of John's emotional state, and then layer on top of that her people's custom that the man makes the first move.
It's not any one single thing, it's the whole picture, synergistically connected.
Even retrospectively, a crush on Kanaan doesn't gel. In 'Missing' she tells Jennifer that they've been friends for a long time, but this development is recent and new. She doesn't say she's been hoping for it for a long time, or that she's cared about him a long time; she says they're friends and this development is new.
There's also a shyness in her, a hesitation that I read as a kind of embarrassment, which I take to mean she never saw this one coming - it blindsided her.
No, I'm still completely convinced that the conversation in 'Sunday' is about liking John.
My reference to 'Sunday' was entirely about "the man making the first move" which is clearly important to Teyla in this situation. And ties in with Kanaan making the first move and John not making the first move.
So, um, you got the right scene, but we're at 180degree interpretations of it.
*g*
What I hate is character bashing, choosing to accuse a character of being a dirty, cheating whore on little to no evidence of wrongdoing and screeching about it all over fandom.
Angst triangles? I got no problem with. Your bulletproof kink? It's actually mine, too. *g* (But, again, no marital cheating. Big no-no.)
Bitching on a woman for choosing between two men...that's another issue. We're talking about fics where John takes it out on Teyla that she slept with Kanaan, in spite of the fact that they had no explicit agreement between them. We're talking about fics where Teyla's tearful and apologetic that she 'betrayed' John by sleeping with Kanaan and bearing his child.
That's the kind of attitude I'm seeing - in fic and in post. And to tell you the truth, I'm feeling seriously pissed off about it.