Heroes 1.01-1.02

[tielan]

Maya's accent seems to come and go this season, compared with last season where it was fairly steady (at least to my ear); I'm not sure about this Mohinder/Maya thing - especially since Mohinder's gone...well...superpowered. And, apparently, super-sexy. He was sexy before, though. This is just...a more open sexuality.

I don't think I like the way Maya tends to fall for guys; it's a little sudden - she seems awfully passive about it, although how much of that is because of her relationship with Alejandro is questionable. She was the dominant one in that connection; I guess I expected her to be more dominant than she is.

Niki - what's happening to her, with her? Multiple personalities? Channelling dead people? I still don't know what her power is - or what she can do other than kick ass.

Angela is annoying me the way everyone tends to do in Heroes after a while: lots of mysterious comments and secret-keeping, but no actual explanations. Nobody seems to do the logical thing and explain exactly what's going on - especially Angela. Habit, maybe, but her telling future!Peter that his being here is messing up the timeline is annoying since she never elaborates on exactly how he's messing up the timeline.

The Claire-Peter thing is...well, interesting. I was always a Peter/Claire shipper from the get-go, although obviously that's a no-no within the context of the show. I

Dear translator-from-Japanese: it's discreet - trustworthy, able to keep secrets - not discrete - individual, separate.

Hiro is a little bit stupid in his innocence. Just because Ando kills him doesn't mean that Ando's a bad guy; if Ando (a good guy) can turn bad, then why can't Hiro? Just like future!Peter doesn't seem to clue in that in sticking around where he's at, he's causing more trouble from knowing the future and trying to stop things - screwing things up even further.

Why, yes, Mohinder, when you inject yourself with an untested, untried version of a drug meant to change your genetic structure chances are that strange things will happen to you.

The worst thing about watching thirsty people drink on TV? They're so damn wasteful about water. The water goes into the mouth, not around the mouth, idiots!

My verdict on the first two eps: interesting but not particularly engaging. Although Mama Petrelli's revelation that Sylar is one of her sons is...interesting indeed.

Comments

[faerietaleredux.livejournal.com]

Eek, your entry cut off right when you were going to elaborate on your Claire-Peter comments. What were you going to say? Or was that "I" just a typo?

I've only seen the first season of Heroes, but I remember how much I wanted C/P to happen. Of course, at the time, the two character's hadn't really had more than a minute of screen time together. I realize it'll never happen now.

One day I'll catch up with all I've missed. Maybe in December, after classes. I'll need a little escape time.

[tielan]

It probably was an interruption - I was watching and typing at the same time, and that was probably when the discrete/discreet blunder turned up on my screen.

[raksha38.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure how I feel about Mohinder getting powers. My mom and I watched these eps together and the whole time with Mohinder I was like, "...And now he grows blue fur all over his body and gets fangs. Any time now. Come on, where's the damn blue fur?!" Cuz seriously? His storyline is basically that of The Beast from X-Men. Hank used to be a normal looking guy (in a Meat Bus from Dexter kind of way) until he was messing around with a mutant-related serum he didn't fully understand and then BAM! Blue fur. And now Mohinder is super strong and agile and can walk up walls and stuff like Beast? Yeah, he needs blue fur.

Of course, then they'll get their asses sued off by Marvel, but a lawsuit would be kind of overdue anyway considering how many comics they've already ripped off wholesale.

I'm kind of sad about Hiro this season. He's always been idealistic and a bit naive, but now he's just getting kind of stupid, which he never was before. I don't like it. Or maybe I'm just cranky because the writers are messing with my "Hiro + Ando = Homiez 4EVA!!1!" happiness.

Shallow note: Claire looks hot as a brunette. Totally hot.


Overall, I'm liking this season about the same as last season, which is a pretty good thing. I'm not one of those that hated last season. It's good and all, but I'm not losing my mind with joy every week.

[tielan]

Of course, then they'll get their asses sued off by Marvel, but a lawsuit would be kind of overdue anyway considering how many comics they've already ripped off wholesale.

Jeph Loeb - one of the creators of Heroes actually came from Marvel Comics. So I don't think they're going to sue.

[stacy2002.livejournal.com]

I watched 1 episode of season 1, not sure of the ep number, but Claire tried to rescue Exploding Man (probably not his real name) from a burning building and burnt/regenerated repeatedly (Wolverine!) until Exploding Man exploded. I thought it was good fun, when no one was talking. The dialogue was VILE. I couldn't watch anymore than those 2 eps, and only returned this season to see Francis Capra in the season opener. It was good to see him in a show that people actually watch. He is so good, and one day soon, all leading men will be 5'8" and tattooed as hell, then he will be a star (Thank you Tom Cruise, for opening the door for short men)- but the show was worse than ever. Campy delivery is only okay in small doses, and 50's comic book dialogue was only ok IN THE FRACKIN 50'S.

I wonder aloud - how come Heroes rules the airwaves with bad writing, but Stargate Atlantis, Farscape and Firefly got cancelled? Is life just that unfair?

[tielan]

I suspect it's because Heroes has pretty good plots and mystery, while SGA tends towards the predictable end of science fiction.

Also, Heroes is a new show - only into it's 3rd season; SGA had run for 5 seasons at this point.

[stacy2002.livejournal.com]

I will watch anything if the dialogue is good. The lamest, weakest plots, full of holes, familiar as hell, I will watch it if the conversations are real and the characters voices touch me, make me feel they are alive. Heroes is not for me - the characters are line drawings, and no amount of mysterious plottiness can bridge that divide for me.

And I like my shows to be at least 4 years old; that's when you really start to feel as though you KNOW these people.

Am I in no one's target audience? Seriously?

[tielan]

I imagine there are plenty of shows for which you're the target audience.

The fact that you don't like them is a separate matter entirely.

I suppoe I must

[stacy2002.livejournal.com]

In a very general way, I suppose I must fall under an umbrella or two - 30's, educated, liberal. If those details were enough to really decide what I would enjoy, then the majority of the American shows I have liked in the last five years (with the exception of CSI, Monk and House) would not have been cancelled. The shows that weren't cancelled outright were tinkered with till they were unrecognizable, then cancelled.

There doesn't appear to be room on American networks for shows that don't have mass appeal. And I know that at best I am an undiscovered niche market.

I am liking Eureka, Sarah Connor Chronicles and In Plain Sight right now, and I really am just keeping my fingers crossed for them, I am almost afraid to like them because that is a death sentence - RIP, Firefly and Veronica Mars. Sanctuary and Fringe are not going to meet my scifi needs, I know that already.

NatGeo and Discovery are still there for me, though. Dirty Jobs and Mythbusters rule, and there is always some documentary on about Egyptian mummies. Bless them.

I find myself watching British programming, and the shows resonate with me in a way that American programmes rarely do. The colonial in me, I suppose. Dr Who, Torchwood, Primeval, Graham Norton, Cash in the Attic (don't ask, I can't explain why I like it), anything with Gordon Ramsay and REAL football.

Re: I suppoe I must

[tielan]

Regarding British shows, it might be a differential sense of humour. I don't generally care for American sit-coms; their sense of humour doesn't appeal to me.

There doesn't appear to be room on American networks for shows that don't have mass appeal.

There isn't. As a general rule, America doesn't do "niche" - not in networks, not in food stores, not in politics. If a show isn't doing as well as the networks want in the first handful of episodes, then it's dumped without being given a chance to find its footing.

And some shows - like Stargate Atlantis - are cancelled, not because they're unpopular, but because they're popular and the cost-to-profit ratio of a TV series is significantly higher than that of a movie franchise.

[stacy2002.livejournal.com]

So why spend $1 and make $2 when you can spend $2 and make $10?

[tielan]

Yes.

[stacy2002.livejournal.com]

Damn.

[faerietaleredux.livejournal.com]

Eek, your entry cut off right when you were going to elaborate on your Claire-Peter comments. What were you going to say? Or was that "I" just a typo?

I've only seen the first season of Heroes, but I remember how much I wanted C/P to happen. Of course, at the time, the two character's hadn't really had more than a minute of screen time together. I realize it'll never happen now.

One day I'll catch up with all I've missed. Maybe in December, after classes. I'll need a little escape time.

[tielan]

It probably was an interruption - I was watching and typing at the same time, and that was probably when the discrete/discreet blunder turned up on my screen.

[raksha38.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure how I feel about Mohinder getting powers. My mom and I watched these eps together and the whole time with Mohinder I was like, "...And now he grows blue fur all over his body and gets fangs. Any time now. Come on, where's the damn blue fur?!" Cuz seriously? His storyline is basically that of The Beast from X-Men. Hank used to be a normal looking guy (in a Meat Bus from Dexter kind of way) until he was messing around with a mutant-related serum he didn't fully understand and then BAM! Blue fur. And now Mohinder is super strong and agile and can walk up walls and stuff like Beast? Yeah, he needs blue fur.

Of course, then they'll get their asses sued off by Marvel, but a lawsuit would be kind of overdue anyway considering how many comics they've already ripped off wholesale.

I'm kind of sad about Hiro this season. He's always been idealistic and a bit naive, but now he's just getting kind of stupid, which he never was before. I don't like it. Or maybe I'm just cranky because the writers are messing with my "Hiro + Ando = Homiez 4EVA!!1!" happiness.

Shallow note: Claire looks hot as a brunette. Totally hot.


Overall, I'm liking this season about the same as last season, which is a pretty good thing. I'm not one of those that hated last season. It's good and all, but I'm not losing my mind with joy every week.

[tielan]

Of course, then they'll get their asses sued off by Marvel, but a lawsuit would be kind of overdue anyway considering how many comics they've already ripped off wholesale.

Jeph Loeb - one of the creators of Heroes actually came from Marvel Comics. So I don't think they're going to sue.

[stacy2002.livejournal.com]

I watched 1 episode of season 1, not sure of the ep number, but Claire tried to rescue Exploding Man (probably not his real name) from a burning building and burnt/regenerated repeatedly (Wolverine!) until Exploding Man exploded. I thought it was good fun, when no one was talking. The dialogue was VILE. I couldn't watch anymore than those 2 eps, and only returned this season to see Francis Capra in the season opener. It was good to see him in a show that people actually watch. He is so good, and one day soon, all leading men will be 5'8" and tattooed as hell, then he will be a star (Thank you Tom Cruise, for opening the door for short men)- but the show was worse than ever. Campy delivery is only okay in small doses, and 50's comic book dialogue was only ok IN THE FRACKIN 50'S.

I wonder aloud - how come Heroes rules the airwaves with bad writing, but Stargate Atlantis, Farscape and Firefly got cancelled? Is life just that unfair?

[tielan]

I suspect it's because Heroes has pretty good plots and mystery, while SGA tends towards the predictable end of science fiction.

Also, Heroes is a new show - only into it's 3rd season; SGA had run for 5 seasons at this point.

[stacy2002.livejournal.com]

I will watch anything if the dialogue is good. The lamest, weakest plots, full of holes, familiar as hell, I will watch it if the conversations are real and the characters voices touch me, make me feel they are alive. Heroes is not for me - the characters are line drawings, and no amount of mysterious plottiness can bridge that divide for me.

And I like my shows to be at least 4 years old; that's when you really start to feel as though you KNOW these people.

Am I in no one's target audience? Seriously?

[tielan]

I imagine there are plenty of shows for which you're the target audience.

The fact that you don't like them is a separate matter entirely.

I suppoe I must

[stacy2002.livejournal.com]

In a very general way, I suppose I must fall under an umbrella or two - 30's, educated, liberal. If those details were enough to really decide what I would enjoy, then the majority of the American shows I have liked in the last five years (with the exception of CSI, Monk and House) would not have been cancelled. The shows that weren't cancelled outright were tinkered with till they were unrecognizable, then cancelled.

There doesn't appear to be room on American networks for shows that don't have mass appeal. And I know that at best I am an undiscovered niche market.

I am liking Eureka, Sarah Connor Chronicles and In Plain Sight right now, and I really am just keeping my fingers crossed for them, I am almost afraid to like them because that is a death sentence - RIP, Firefly and Veronica Mars. Sanctuary and Fringe are not going to meet my scifi needs, I know that already.

NatGeo and Discovery are still there for me, though. Dirty Jobs and Mythbusters rule, and there is always some documentary on about Egyptian mummies. Bless them.

I find myself watching British programming, and the shows resonate with me in a way that American programmes rarely do. The colonial in me, I suppose. Dr Who, Torchwood, Primeval, Graham Norton, Cash in the Attic (don't ask, I can't explain why I like it), anything with Gordon Ramsay and REAL football.

Re: I suppoe I must

[tielan]

Regarding British shows, it might be a differential sense of humour. I don't generally care for American sit-coms; their sense of humour doesn't appeal to me.

There doesn't appear to be room on American networks for shows that don't have mass appeal.

There isn't. As a general rule, America doesn't do "niche" - not in networks, not in food stores, not in politics. If a show isn't doing as well as the networks want in the first handful of episodes, then it's dumped without being given a chance to find its footing.

And some shows - like Stargate Atlantis - are cancelled, not because they're unpopular, but because they're popular and the cost-to-profit ratio of a TV series is significantly higher than that of a movie franchise.

[stacy2002.livejournal.com]

So why spend $1 and make $2 when you can spend $2 and make $10?

[tielan]

Yes.

[stacy2002.livejournal.com]

Damn.