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Thursday, September 1st, 2016 10:13 am
Things I am learning from Trump and Bernie fans: If my candidate doesn't win, it's not because they didn't have the numbers to appeal to the broader public, it's because the election was rigged.

Wow. I mean, seriously. WOW.
Thursday, September 1st, 2016 12:22 am (UTC)
I am not putting a rigged election past anybody, frankly. Not while electronic voting machines that are not required to be at least as secure and transparent as Vegas requires electronic slot machines to be are in use in any jurisdiction that might flip the election.

That said, I am reasonably certain the evidence suggests the DNC didn't like Bernie Sanders (raise your hands who's shocked that the Democratic party establishment doesn't like an outside-the-establishment candidate who's probably going back to being an Independent, not Democratic, senator) but didn't rig shit against him.

And despite what people love to say about Hillary Clinton's dishonesty and lack of integrity, she has integrity and is honest and I am certain she would not agree to a Democratic attempt to rig the election in her favor, and fairly certain she would insist on a more honest rerun were she to find out after winning that such an attempt had occurred. Can't say as I think the same of Donald Trump.
Thursday, September 1st, 2016 05:02 am (UTC)
Well, when you get a) large swaths of the population with little/no idea how politics actually works because they've never participated in it, only complained, and b) highly self-selecting peer groups that turn into an echo chamber, it's a fairly common belief. Because if you've been participating, you've seen how the system tends to work and why, and can realize that a less-than-optimal system =/= rigged. But if you don't know that ... look, it's a weird and confusing system even when everything's working as it's supposed to. And when you add to that "everyone I know believes x and supports y," it's really easy to believe that this is the way Americans in general think and who they support, and therefore if your guy doesn't win there has to be a nefarious explanation for it. Either one is a problem. Both together?