Yeah, I heard about the Elizabeth-basher from the John/Teyla group on Gateworld. Thankfully, she seems to have gone.
I know of at least one John/Teyla fan who is very 'unenamoured' of Elizabeth as a character; one is rather disparaging (I don't know if she's the same as the Elizabeth-basher you're thinking of). I love the character, but some of her fans are...scary. Yes, we'll just say "scary" and leave it at that.
Plus, she already has so much love that my head instinctively turns towards Teyla, who's ignored and dismissed and dissed. I have a soft spot for the underdog.
In all honesty, Shep/Weir was almost always plain old friendly interaction to me, except where it was specific to John's role in the show. John's role in TRW was that of "the hero" who was needed to rescue Elizabeth. He's played that role before - in "The Eye/The Storm", in "The Defiant One", more recently in "The Ark".
Actually, TRW annoys me for being a dead-end episode about Elizabeth. I'd much rather have had the boys stuck in some prison somewhere while Elizabeth (and Teyla, Lorne, and a couple of marines) had to negotiate them out of it - and possibly shoot a few things to get their point across. That would have been relevant to her role in Atlantis, her status as a negotiator and leader, and the expedition's standing in Pegasus.
See? Character. Not shipping. *sigh*
(Actually, I don't know how the Shweirs took TRW. I imagine they were happy-happy about it, though. I'd just rather have had an ep that was meaningful to Elizabeth in character-growth and her current situation as expedition leader.)
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I know of at least one John/Teyla fan who is very 'unenamoured' of Elizabeth as a character; one is rather disparaging (I don't know if she's the same as the Elizabeth-basher you're thinking of). I love the character, but some of her fans are...scary. Yes, we'll just say "scary" and leave it at that.
Plus, she already has so much love that my head instinctively turns towards Teyla, who's ignored and dismissed and dissed. I have a soft spot for the underdog.
In all honesty, Shep/Weir was almost always plain old friendly interaction to me, except where it was specific to John's role in the show. John's role in TRW was that of "the hero" who was needed to rescue Elizabeth. He's played that role before - in "The Eye/The Storm", in "The Defiant One", more recently in "The Ark".
Actually, TRW annoys me for being a dead-end episode about Elizabeth. I'd much rather have had the boys stuck in some prison somewhere while Elizabeth (and Teyla, Lorne, and a couple of marines) had to negotiate them out of it - and possibly shoot a few things to get their point across. That would have been relevant to her role in Atlantis, her status as a negotiator and leader, and the expedition's standing in Pegasus.
See? Character. Not shipping. *sigh*
(Actually, I don't know how the Shweirs took TRW. I imagine they were happy-happy about it, though. I'd just rather have had an ep that was meaningful to Elizabeth in character-growth and her current situation as expedition leader.)