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I watched the first three episodes of Fringe and enjoyed them.
I mean, some of the scenarios creep me out (the first two eps were terrifying), but I love the characters and their dynamics.
The stories hits my kinks - not only the grand conspiracy theory, but also plots that I can't predict and twists that I can't see coming. I haven't yet had any 'humiliation squick' moments, no major problematical procedural moments, and so far I haven't felt that anyone is written as stupid just to make Olivia look good. Plus: one thing I know JJ Abrams doesn't shy from is relationship development. He plays out his ship lines for all he's worth, but there will be fish at the end of it!
Olivia is definitely my primary character kink - an action-oriented, problem-solving female character, who's both good at what she does professionally, as well as emotionally careful. Law-abiding, but a little left of centre, tenacious without being bullish, takes risks when the payoff seems right, and a do-er character who is written as a do-er.
Broyles and Nina are wonderful bookends - their ambiguity and the way they interact with Olivia: menter and counter-mentor, angel and devil, and both of them with edges.
Walter is hilarious: exactly the kind of mad scientist one can admire and shudder at, while not feeling like he's overplayed. His 'absentminded mad genius' reminds me a little of a Discworld Igor - or what you'd get if you had an Igor in the position of a master of an Igor, and toned down the campy evil but also left out the grounded practicality of the Igor. (Sanctuary's Nikola Tesla is what you'd get if you crossed a Discworld Igor with the master of an Igor and toned up the campy evil vibe, focusing more on the megalomaniacal master personality.) And Walter and Peter riff off each other to a tee.
I'm presently seeing Peter as a white male version of Kate Freelander, who's written accordingly. He's a little more law-abiding (Kate's internal compass is to those who earn her loyalty - whether through payment or loyalty back - rather than the law, while Peter still adheres to the law...mostly) but there's still the moral ambiguity - the finger-smashing incident in the pilot? I liked that. It was a great 'throw him out the airlock' moment.
Aside: I wonder if my 'sold!' moment on Sanctuary was Kate feeding Constantin to the abnormal in 2x03 Eulogy. Hm. No, actually, my 'sold!' moment was the darkness of the Pavor!verse: the AU/journey-to-the-underworld storyline. But Kate's actions in Eulogy were definitely a bonus for me. I can do heroics and heroism, but not the Mickey Mouse kind. I really love a character who walks into the darkness of her own free will on occasion. Teyla in The Gift, punching Bates when he insults her, then attacking in the infirmary when the Wraith have her mind. Although my 'sold!' moment in SGA was when Teyla asked John for more time to rescue her friends and was willing to walk out into the cullings to wait for them - a moment when her loyalty to her people crystallised in-show.
Fringe fulfills several of my character and plot kinks, even in the first episode: the walk into the darkness by a female character, a character (or characters) with moral ambiguity who's still on the side of the good guys, a twist in the plot, and an action-oriented female character with a side of 'do what it takes to get the job done, even if it's not entirely nice'.
The scenarios and plots...well, they could be a problem later. I changed my sleeping habits for four months after watching the S2 ender of X-Files - the one with Krycek locked in the room with the alien craft, spilling alien oil from his eyes - because I couldn't sleep at night for seeing that scene. I'd come home from work, sleep until about 10pm, then be up until I had to go in to work at 6am. Four months of Zombie!Tielan. I nearly walked out of Sleepy Hollow. I had a few sleep-with-the-lights-on nights after Buffy: Hush and Dr Who: Blink.
I don't handle horror well. Or, generally, at all.
But I like the characters and the conspiracy theory and the plot twists in Fringe. So far, anyway.
I'll keep watching, I guess. Although I won't be watching it at night or without company because my imagination can't take it.
tl;dr: I like the characters. I like the plots. I'm just not sure I can watch the plots and get enough sleep to make me a functional human being.
Are there any people who like both Fringe and Sanctuary on my f-list?
edited for typos and incorrect episode naming
I mean, some of the scenarios creep me out (the first two eps were terrifying), but I love the characters and their dynamics.
The stories hits my kinks - not only the grand conspiracy theory, but also plots that I can't predict and twists that I can't see coming. I haven't yet had any 'humiliation squick' moments, no major problematical procedural moments, and so far I haven't felt that anyone is written as stupid just to make Olivia look good. Plus: one thing I know JJ Abrams doesn't shy from is relationship development. He plays out his ship lines for all he's worth, but there will be fish at the end of it!
Olivia is definitely my primary character kink - an action-oriented, problem-solving female character, who's both good at what she does professionally, as well as emotionally careful. Law-abiding, but a little left of centre, tenacious without being bullish, takes risks when the payoff seems right, and a do-er character who is written as a do-er.
Broyles and Nina are wonderful bookends - their ambiguity and the way they interact with Olivia: menter and counter-mentor, angel and devil, and both of them with edges.
Walter is hilarious: exactly the kind of mad scientist one can admire and shudder at, while not feeling like he's overplayed. His 'absentminded mad genius' reminds me a little of a Discworld Igor - or what you'd get if you had an Igor in the position of a master of an Igor, and toned down the campy evil but also left out the grounded practicality of the Igor. (Sanctuary's Nikola Tesla is what you'd get if you crossed a Discworld Igor with the master of an Igor and toned up the campy evil vibe, focusing more on the megalomaniacal master personality.) And Walter and Peter riff off each other to a tee.
I'm presently seeing Peter as a white male version of Kate Freelander, who's written accordingly. He's a little more law-abiding (Kate's internal compass is to those who earn her loyalty - whether through payment or loyalty back - rather than the law, while Peter still adheres to the law...mostly) but there's still the moral ambiguity - the finger-smashing incident in the pilot? I liked that. It was a great 'throw him out the airlock' moment.
Aside: I wonder if my 'sold!' moment on Sanctuary was Kate feeding Constantin to the abnormal in 2x03 Eulogy. Hm. No, actually, my 'sold!' moment was the darkness of the Pavor!verse: the AU/journey-to-the-underworld storyline. But Kate's actions in Eulogy were definitely a bonus for me. I can do heroics and heroism, but not the Mickey Mouse kind. I really love a character who walks into the darkness of her own free will on occasion. Teyla in The Gift, punching Bates when he insults her, then attacking in the infirmary when the Wraith have her mind. Although my 'sold!' moment in SGA was when Teyla asked John for more time to rescue her friends and was willing to walk out into the cullings to wait for them - a moment when her loyalty to her people crystallised in-show.
Fringe fulfills several of my character and plot kinks, even in the first episode: the walk into the darkness by a female character, a character (or characters) with moral ambiguity who's still on the side of the good guys, a twist in the plot, and an action-oriented female character with a side of 'do what it takes to get the job done, even if it's not entirely nice'.
The scenarios and plots...well, they could be a problem later. I changed my sleeping habits for four months after watching the S2 ender of X-Files - the one with Krycek locked in the room with the alien craft, spilling alien oil from his eyes - because I couldn't sleep at night for seeing that scene. I'd come home from work, sleep until about 10pm, then be up until I had to go in to work at 6am. Four months of Zombie!Tielan. I nearly walked out of Sleepy Hollow. I had a few sleep-with-the-lights-on nights after Buffy: Hush and Dr Who: Blink.
I don't handle horror well. Or, generally, at all.
But I like the characters and the conspiracy theory and the plot twists in Fringe. So far, anyway.
I'll keep watching, I guess. Although I won't be watching it at night or without company because my imagination can't take it.
tl;dr: I like the characters. I like the plots. I'm just not sure I can watch the plots and get enough sleep to make me a functional human being.
Are there any people who like both Fringe and Sanctuary on my f-list?
edited for typos and incorrect episode naming
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I love them both, but I'm afraid that I'm similiarly non-fanficcish about Fringe in the way that I am about Sanctuary. I do love discussion of both, though!
ETA:I'm caught up through the end of season two, but there are things that you're going to eventually learn, and I'm aching to hear what you think about them.
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But yes, discussion will be forthcoming.
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Olivia is fast becoming one of my favorite characters.