SDCC trailers

[tielan]

I'm excited by Justice League, but not by Thor: Ragnarok. The word 'bloated' came up in a description of the MCU franchise in a review last year (or possibly this year, when comparing Wonder Woman with the current crop of superhero movies) and 'bloated' perfectly describes the trailer of Thor: Ragnarok.

Spiderman: Homecoming has good enough reviews that I might actually watch it (sometime), and I will be there to watch Black Panther with BELLS ON. But I might pass Thor: Ragnarok in much the same way that I passed on Thor: When Dark Elves Attack The Dark World. I eventually watched it and enjoyed it, but it wasn't All That. (Then again, I feel like the Thor franchise is one of the weakest ones in the MCU storyline.)

I haven't even looked at the trailer for Stargate: Origins, although if it's Catherine Langford's story, I will almost certainly give a looksee.

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[kore]

Yeah, I never thought I would be preferring DCEU over MCU, but if they do an okay JLA AND have already greenlit a WW sequel, and an Aquaman movie?....MCU put off Captain Marvel way too long and I don't like the casting, they really fucked over Steve as far as I'm concerned and the only thing I'm looking forward to is Black Panther. And they already have to fucking Spiderman sequels lined up and he and Tony are going to be all over Infinity War apparently. NOT. INTERESTED.


(AND NO BLACK WIDOW MOVIE APPARENTLY EVER?

[tielan]

Look, I would have been behind a BW movie back four years ago - as soon as they realised what a fan favourite Natasha was. Now? Now, it's too little too late for me. Natasha has had a lot of character development - admittedly in other superheroes' movies, of course - but still, she's a rounded character in her own right, with agency.

They need to develop a female hero who hasn't yet been developed in the MCU (and given that it looks like Captain Marvel is going to be "time-frozen" from the 90s, they need a woman who was born this side of the 80s).

Hope Van Dyne as Wasp might do it, but I heard that she's confined to the Ant-Man line of movies because someone doesn't want to share rights?

Wanda could do it, if they could stop painting her in the victim/perpetratro dichotomy.

And yeah, they cut off a lot of avenues by making all the 'new' superheroes guys, with nary a female-coded one in sight. But I feel like adding to what Natasha has only exacerbates the problem of Only One Good Woman Who Is Also Real And Rounded, Okay That's Enough which we've had for the last five years in the MCU (Wanda joining the roster helped, but her storyline in CW didn't).

[kore]

They need to develop a female hero who hasn't yet been developed in the MCU (and given that it looks like Captain Marvel is going to be "time-frozen" from the 90s, they need a woman who was born this side of the 80s).

HA HA HA HA //cries

Hope Van Dyne as Wasp might do it, but I heard that she's confined to the Ant-Man line of movies because someone doesn't want to share rights?

Oh JFC, probably. On the other hand, supposedly Michelle Pfeiffer is going to be Jan, and she is RIGHT in that timeline (fifty-nine!) and if it's a movie about Hope rescuing Jan, I will be there with fucking bells on. Especially if Jan then joins the Avengers (probably not, but....fanfic?). I do like Hope. Paul Rudd's Ant-Man turned me right off, though.

Wanda could do it, if they could stop painting her in the victim/perpetratro dichotomy.

Oh my God, I can't even deal with MCU Wanda. She was cast wrong and written wrong and just....is so wrong. Comics Wanda basically got ruined (altho I liked her new recent series, even if it was by a dude) and MCU Wanda is pretty much an overpowered battle prop/pretty little innocent girl. Nothankyou.

And yeah, they cut off a lot of avenues by making all the 'new' superheroes guys, with nary a female-coded one in sight.

That's a really good point, especially since there have been new female superheroes in the comics for years now. And a lot of them are even associated WITH Spiderman (or Spiderman even is Miles! I like Miles). It's that old Four Guys and One Chick cliche (which the new Thor movie neatly falls into, judging from the trailer: Thor, Loki, Bruce/Hulk, and Valkyrie). It's 2017! Can't there be more than one woman? What are they afraid of, that we'll asexually reproduce or something?

[tielan]

It's that old Four Guys and One Chick cliche (which the new Thor movie neatly falls into, judging from the trailer: Thor, Loki, Bruce/Hulk, and Valkyrie). It's 2017! Can't there be more than one woman? What are they afraid of, that we'll asexually reproduce or something?

They are TERRIFIED that women are taking over. And I think the irony is that it's because such assholes know how they've treated women all these years, and they think that women would treat them the same if they had the power (which, chances are, yes we would, because: human). And yet all we're asking for is simple representation - the chance to dream that we might be people...