realisations that have grown on me in the last week

[tielan]

More Infinity War thoughts:

This was not a story we needed now.

THIS WAS NOT A STORY WE NEEDED NOW.

Maybe it seemed a fine idea back when American democracy still had the semblance of law and freedom, when HRC was on the road to winning the American election, when the idea was conceived in the heads of rich, famous, white men with nothing to lose. But when our society is rapidly heading down the darkest timeline, the thing most of us certainly did not need was a movie...about the darkest timeline.

There are stories of kids going to see the movie and coming out crying, not knowing that it's going to be okay. Frankly, I don't know if it's going to be okay. and I know that Carol is coming.

The whole matter of "will A4 introduce ideas that make my stomach churn" is kind of a given, tbh. *sigh*

Comments

[kore]

OH GOD
SO MUCH WORD

SO
MUCH
WORD

I keep saying if I want a giant man with power fucking everything up, I can just look out the window! or turn on the TV. If we're going to have stories about resistance to how it's all fucked, I want stories about the RESISTANCE, thanks, not ones that make me try to feel bad about a psychopathic abuser.

//watches Rogue One again

[ladyjax]

We saw IW in a theater with a mix of kids, adults, and mostly POC - because Oakland.

I have to wonder what some of have perceived as the darkest timeline was already dark for a lot of kids long before DT and his ilk reared their ugly heads. For many of them, it's always been some flavor of crap and seeing it play out on screen may read differently because even though heroes fell, there were still some people left standing and they were going to have to negotiate a vastly different world. What they would do next is the big question.

(and I spoiled some poor dude sitting behind me during the post credits scene when I went "Oh, shit! Captain Fucking Marvel!)

(aaaand, did you notice that one of Thanos' children - the big craggy one, was wearing that same symbol around his waist? Or maybe I imagined it)

[tielan]

Oh, I'm definitely speaking from a place of privilege regarding societal acceptance of someone's right to be there. And you're right - it looks different when your life has always been some flavour of crap. Thanks for pointing that out.

I spoiled some poor dude sitting behind me during the post credits scene when I went "Oh, shit! Captain Fucking Marvel!)

I saw a few twitter comments where people said they had to bring this up as a point of comfort for their traumatised co-viewers who don't know what's coming next.

[tielan]

did you notice that one of Thanos' children - the big craggy one, was wearing that same symbol around his waist?

I did not. I'll keep an eye out when I go to see it with friends on Thursday night.

[tielan]

Rogue One was a movie with a story we needed to hear. Infinity War...was not. Particularly not for people who are feeling increasingly helpless when previously they did not. (Although, as ladyjax has pointed out below, this is certainly a privilege that some people have and others do not.

[kore]

Yeah, T had no idea what that little symbol meant. I think that's true of most moviegoers really, altho now they get to be educated on who MCU Carol is for the next movie! //bitter because I wanted older recovering Carol played by Gwendolin Christie

(and what about Spectrum, Marvel, hunh? WHAT ABOUT CAROL AND MONICA SAVING THE WORLD, KTHNX Rhodey and Fury can help)

[lynnenne]

OMG YES.

One of my biggest beefs with the film was how Rhodey did an apparent about-face on the Sokovia Accords. Like, fuck democracy and the rule of law, we're powerful people so laws and social norms don't apply to us. NOT A MESSAGE WE NEED RIGHT NOW.

I feel terrible for any young kids who went to see this movie. At that age, I would have bawled for a week.

[lynnenne]

I keep saying if I want a giant man with power fucking everything up, I can just look out the window!

I've been avoiding windows for more than a year, now. I used to report the news, once. Now I can't go near it without breaking into a cold sweat.

[kore]

Yeah, my dad was a newswriter all his life and I grew up a news and politics junkie. Now I avoid newspapers completely and pretty much just watch Maddow, because at least she doesn't leave me feeling hopeless.

[kore]

(Nice Nat icon!)

I was a super sensitive kid, so if I had seen this unspoiled I DEF would have bawled for a week.

[tielan]

I also wanted an older Carol - like, Rhodey's age, kind of Carol, b/c older powerful women.

*sadface*

Frankly, I want Maria saving the world...in lieu of that, I'd take more Maria, simply because NOBODY SEEMS TO BE ABLE TO REMEMBER THAT SHE EXISTS. Like, not the fans, not the writers, not ANYONE. Except me and a few people whenever I mention her.

Sometimes, swear to God, I think I made this character up in my head. It's like, she didn't even need to be ashed because nobody actually knows who she is in the first place, and even those who know who she is CANNOT ACTUALLY RECALL HER.

[tielan]

I got the impression he wasn't happy about them in CW (and that was 2 years ago), he just knuckled down, because he's done his time in the military and sometimes you just gotta jump and then work out where you stand once you land.

Maybe after 2 years of dealing with the Accords and Thunderbolt Ross, he's just decided "fuckitall; let's throw that book out the window".

[jenab]

Yes. The darkness and just so much death right from the beginning really got to me. It's not needed in this point of time.

Stories of love and hope in the darkness are needed more.

[kore]

FURY: //goes poof

MARIA: What the f --

CAROL: //zaps in -- I assume this is the giant emergency Fury said he was keeping me in reserve for and not that he needs a battery jump?

MARIA: Who are you?

CAROL: Who're you?

PEPPER: MARIA HELP NATASHA SAYS TONY IS STRANDED ON ANOTHER PLANET AND STEVE IS STARING BLANKLY AT A LITTLE PILE OF DIRT and someone named Shuri says hi?*


*this is the version of BP where Maria had Ross's part

[kore]

OMG that icon! is it new?

[tielan]

Newish. :)

[tielan]

BEST EVER REPLACEMENT OF A USELESS WHITE MALE IN A MOVIE.

(I did see that someone on FFA said that they'd suggested Sharon which, while nice for the women generally, does not hit my id at all...)

[tielan]

Extremely painful. Also irritating, given how much effort they went to to save a fragment of the Asgardians, only to pretty much half them (and then probably halve them again when Thanos resets reality).

Plus, HEIMDALL!

[kore]

Solution, put BOTH Maria and Sharon in Black Panther, whittle Serkis's part down to nothing (he annoyed me immensely).

[lynnenne]

Thanks! I like yours, too.

[kore]

HOW DO YOU KILL OFF IDRIS ELBA IN THE FIRST 20 MIN, MAN

[tielan]

YOU BECOME A WHITE MAN. THAT'S HOW.

[kore]

I FUCKING GUESS and he was so gorgeous as Heimdall too