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This is mostly relating to the HP fandom and recent events regarding the saleability of fanworks, but some of the points regarding fannish entitlement interested me with regards to Atlantis fandom.
These points are made here in this post.
1. Non-canon fill-ins.
Interviews, blogs, things that don't actually happen in the show. Are they canon? Are they not? Anyone whose OTP/pet theory has just been crucified in an interview/blog entry and who has aspirations to being a canon-thumper will say that information outside of canon, even if given by the creator(s) is non-canon. Anyone whose OTP/pet theory has been confirmed by an interview/blog entry is going to claim it is.
And for a canon that is created by multiple people where the out-of-canon fill-ins are also created by multiple people (ie. a television show like Atlantis), it gets doubly confusing! Especially where they are deliberately performing the blog version of the Dance Of The Seven Veils - don't reveal everything at once, let the layers come off slowly.
"After a certain point, you have to either throw up your hands or go crazy, and some people choose the latter."
Although I guess the definition of 'going crazy' varies from person to person...
2. Balkanization
'Balkanization' is the habit people make of only talking to those who share the same opinions as themselves. When you have a big enough group of people who want canon to imitate their version of fanon, who needs canon anyway?
I think that 90% of the Elizabeth- and Shweir-fans onf my f-list unfriended me after the 14th January 2007. I wasn't distraught over Elizabeth's departure, see? I'm not exactly one of the more popular John/Teyla fans, either - mostly because I don't think that John/Teyla is a special relationship that is better than any other possible relationship for the pairing: I just like it.
"If people disagree with you, you can just call them wrong, make your own space, and ignore them. So, naturally, when the AUTHOR disagrees with you, you stick with the same pattern--decide they must be crazy and go your own way."
Replace 'the AUTHOR' with 'Joe Mallozzi' and it pretty much reads for SGA fandom.
I haven't been around much lately and I haven't been reading the f-list (busy with the overseas trip). This just caught my attention and I figured I'd pass it on as food for thought.
Time to get ready to head off to the Moulin Rouge!
These points are made here in this post.
1. Non-canon fill-ins.
Interviews, blogs, things that don't actually happen in the show. Are they canon? Are they not? Anyone whose OTP/pet theory has just been crucified in an interview/blog entry and who has aspirations to being a canon-thumper will say that information outside of canon, even if given by the creator(s) is non-canon. Anyone whose OTP/pet theory has been confirmed by an interview/blog entry is going to claim it is.
And for a canon that is created by multiple people where the out-of-canon fill-ins are also created by multiple people (ie. a television show like Atlantis), it gets doubly confusing! Especially where they are deliberately performing the blog version of the Dance Of The Seven Veils - don't reveal everything at once, let the layers come off slowly.
"After a certain point, you have to either throw up your hands or go crazy, and some people choose the latter."
Although I guess the definition of 'going crazy' varies from person to person...
2. Balkanization
'Balkanization' is the habit people make of only talking to those who share the same opinions as themselves. When you have a big enough group of people who want canon to imitate their version of fanon, who needs canon anyway?
I think that 90% of the Elizabeth- and Shweir-fans onf my f-list unfriended me after the 14th January 2007. I wasn't distraught over Elizabeth's departure, see? I'm not exactly one of the more popular John/Teyla fans, either - mostly because I don't think that John/Teyla is a special relationship that is better than any other possible relationship for the pairing: I just like it.
"If people disagree with you, you can just call them wrong, make your own space, and ignore them. So, naturally, when the AUTHOR disagrees with you, you stick with the same pattern--decide they must be crazy and go your own way."
Replace 'the AUTHOR' with 'Joe Mallozzi' and it pretty much reads for SGA fandom.
I haven't been around much lately and I haven't been reading the f-list (busy with the overseas trip). This just caught my attention and I figured I'd pass it on as food for thought.
Time to get ready to head off to the Moulin Rouge!
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A: They can, and have contradicted what is on the screen, and what they have said before, or what other people in the creative team have said before.
B: If the writers intended to convey canon or subtext, they had hours and hours to do so, and if they weren't able to convince the audience of it, then they weren't doing it well, and trying to explain it otherwise and after the fact is just lazy.
I'll give you one example of the above which has formed my opinion.
Xena - certain writers, and some actors kept on insisting that Xena and Gabrielle's relationship on the show was just 'close friendship', this lead to some derision amongst the fans, and the small minority who didn't believe there was romantic love between the two would say 'See, writer A said they were just friends, so deal'. As if the writers opinion were the last, and final word on the subject. Not to mention there was contradiction between the writers right from the beginning on the nature of the relationship on that show. Later on, all the writers, and most of the actors said that yeah 'there was something going on between Xena and Gabrielle' well no kidding! I decided it was just easier to decide myself.
Also, from what I've heard, Mr Malozzi is a special little soul, with entitlement issues which can rival many fans I've seen. If anyone is trying to prove their case on what he says, they lost it automatically for me. I've never really been that keen on the TPTB of SGA. Which is why I try not to pay attention to them, it ruins the squee.