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Is there a single scene in Season Five of SGA after the first episode that suggests that anyone other than Ronon feels friendship or affection or care for Teyla?
I think the thing that bothered me most about Prodigal was that neither John nor Rodney seemed to particularly care that Teyla was at her wits end with her son in the opening scene. In the closing scene, they just carry on with their play without more than a comment to her. She and her son and what she's just done don't matter, they're playing! That's important!
In the same way, it bothers me that in Enemy At The Gates, they talk a lot about being a team, and people are all "oh, it was a nice team episode" but the actual signs of them being a team - the things that make a team or a family - were completely absent.
I think that's the thing that frustrates me about TPTB and fandom - the hypocrisy of talking about "the team" when Teyla was emotionally excised from the show - present in body, but not one character seemed to care if she was there or not.
I don't imagine this bothers anyone other than me and the handful of fans of Teyla in this fandom. But it's disturbing me a lot - as much because it says some very negative things about the characters of John, Rodney, Carson, Keller, and Woolsey, as well as the fans who simply don't see the issue, as because Teyla was not only functionally ignored but also emotionally ignored.
At least in Season Four, other characters showed concern over her state. But once she had the child, nobody - character, PTB, or fan - gave a shit about whether she was there or not.
And this is why I'm trying not to think about the show.
I think the thing that bothered me most about Prodigal was that neither John nor Rodney seemed to particularly care that Teyla was at her wits end with her son in the opening scene. In the closing scene, they just carry on with their play without more than a comment to her. She and her son and what she's just done don't matter, they're playing! That's important!
In the same way, it bothers me that in Enemy At The Gates, they talk a lot about being a team, and people are all "oh, it was a nice team episode" but the actual signs of them being a team - the things that make a team or a family - were completely absent.
I think that's the thing that frustrates me about TPTB and fandom - the hypocrisy of talking about "the team" when Teyla was emotionally excised from the show - present in body, but not one character seemed to care if she was there or not.
I don't imagine this bothers anyone other than me and the handful of fans of Teyla in this fandom. But it's disturbing me a lot - as much because it says some very negative things about the characters of John, Rodney, Carson, Keller, and Woolsey, as well as the fans who simply don't see the issue, as because Teyla was not only functionally ignored but also emotionally ignored.
At least in Season Four, other characters showed concern over her state. But once she had the child, nobody - character, PTB, or fan - gave a shit about whether she was there or not.
And this is why I'm trying not to think about the show.
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I think the amount of fic I've written this season has quartered because of the lack of interaction between the main characters. Even between Sheppard and McKay (aside from The Shrine); McKay and Beckett. The writers just seemed bored and that they were just waiting for the show to get to 100 eps. It saddened me greatly.
The only time I think Sheppard really spoke to Teyla this season was in Broken Ties where he had a go at her. Aside from that, there's been nothing.
No one besides Michael showed any any interest in Teyla this season.
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The series finale annoyed me. Teyla and Ronon were almost non-existent. Their purpose, as near as I can tell, was to pat the Earthers on the back and say "of course we'll help you, b/c you helped us, poor ignorant savages."
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Yeah, that's the scary part.
I did think "Prodigal" ended on a very odd note. I didn't like that John was all like, yeah, we're too busy playing the game to help you out with trying to get Torren off to sleep, like, it was surprising that John seemed very adverse to such a thing.
Yeah...it's probably best to not dwell on it.
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Heck Carter and Davis seemed to care more about John riding the nuke into the hive than any other characters.
Likewise I only noticed John and Teyla show a reaction to Ronon's death.
I also thought that were scenes that alluded to friendship time between John and Teyla if only because that was the only way that they could have happened, such as Teyla "spontaneously" bringing her son for Rodney to hold in the Daedalus Variations after he bitched to Sheppard about never being allowed to after dropping him and John making it clear that he agreed with Teyla on that. Clearly wheedling and pointing out that he was in a bed and thus he had very little distance to fall must have occurred offscreen.
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It has more to do with TPTB and how they write. They are guy's and I believe they are what they write for the most part, uncaring and unfeeling.
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It's funny - other people have complained that it was all about Rodney and Keller this season, but to me it feels like the show is all about John and Rodney. Not at the same time - it's like the show has to feature either one or the other, but no other characters really get the plot-light. Keller's really only there either as a plot McGuffin ("Identity") or to service the McKay storyline.
Meh. At any rate, count me as another person disappointed at The Vanishing of Teyla. (And my other half, too.)
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With that said, I notice that too. In Prodigal, it was not only just John and Rodney's reactions, I found upsetting and annoying. It was the reactions of Lorne and Zelenka too, Their reactions were very clinical too.
Teyla got shafted yet again by the ptb. They have neglected her on so many levels.
As someone stated above, it is about writing. I believe that too. That's why I have no intention to watch or support anything having to with these writers outside of SGA.
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I think the amount of fic I've written this season has quartered because of the lack of interaction between the main characters. Even between Sheppard and McKay (aside from The Shrine); McKay and Beckett. The writers just seemed bored and that they were just waiting for the show to get to 100 eps. It saddened me greatly.
The only time I think Sheppard really spoke to Teyla this season was in Broken Ties where he had a go at her. Aside from that, there's been nothing.
No one besides Michael showed any any interest in Teyla this season.
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The series finale annoyed me. Teyla and Ronon were almost non-existent. Their purpose, as near as I can tell, was to pat the Earthers on the back and say "of course we'll help you, b/c you helped us, poor ignorant savages."
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Yeah, that's the scary part.
I did think "Prodigal" ended on a very odd note. I didn't like that John was all like, yeah, we're too busy playing the game to help you out with trying to get Torren off to sleep, like, it was surprising that John seemed very adverse to such a thing.
Yeah...it's probably best to not dwell on it.
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Heck Carter and Davis seemed to care more about John riding the nuke into the hive than any other characters.
Likewise I only noticed John and Teyla show a reaction to Ronon's death.
I also thought that were scenes that alluded to friendship time between John and Teyla if only because that was the only way that they could have happened, such as Teyla "spontaneously" bringing her son for Rodney to hold in the Daedalus Variations after he bitched to Sheppard about never being allowed to after dropping him and John making it clear that he agreed with Teyla on that. Clearly wheedling and pointing out that he was in a bed and thus he had very little distance to fall must have occurred offscreen.
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It has more to do with TPTB and how they write. They are guy's and I believe they are what they write for the most part, uncaring and unfeeling.
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It's funny - other people have complained that it was all about Rodney and Keller this season, but to me it feels like the show is all about John and Rodney. Not at the same time - it's like the show has to feature either one or the other, but no other characters really get the plot-light. Keller's really only there either as a plot McGuffin ("Identity") or to service the McKay storyline.
Meh. At any rate, count me as another person disappointed at The Vanishing of Teyla. (And my other half, too.)
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With that said, I notice that too. In Prodigal, it was not only just John and Rodney's reactions, I found upsetting and annoying. It was the reactions of Lorne and Zelenka too, Their reactions were very clinical too.
Teyla got shafted yet again by the ptb. They have neglected her on so many levels.
As someone stated above, it is about writing. I believe that too. That's why I have no intention to watch or support anything having to with these writers outside of SGA.