SGA 3.10 - The Return

[tielan]

Okay, first off the bat, this episode really got me in the whole 'team-angle' aspect.

TEAM SQUEE!

*runs around squealing for a few hours*

All righty, then! Now that we've got that out of the way...

SGA 3.10 - The Return

SQUEE!!!eleventy!!

Uhh...I think that's about it, really.

No, wait! The scenes between everyone were cute. Ronon roughhousing John during that goodbye scene? Cuteness! John and Teyla's goodbye in the gateroom with the Athosian touch-heads thing? Cuteness! Carson gently overriding Elizabeth when she tries to make an excuse about not coming out with him, Rodney, and John? Cuteness! Yes, even the scenes between John and Elizabeth had a cuteness about them. I may not like them as a pairing, but they make great friends. Just like John and Rodney - those two were damn funny - especially when they're back on Earth and Rodney's trying not to be a softie...except that he is, and John totally knows it.

Teyla negotiating with Ladon of the Gennii? Okay, not cute, exactly, but a nice little angle in on what the Athosians are doing and how Teyla and Ronon are perceived by the 'technologically advanced' races of Pegasus. Nice to see someone appreciating their skills and abilities on the show for a change!

It's almost a pity that Atlantis is so ambivalent about the Gennii (not without reason, I'll admit - although they carry it to extremes I think). I'd love to see the Gennii 'headhunting' Teyla and Ronon and Atlantis realising, "we really should appreciate these guys more". Actually, I'd love it if TPTB appreciated Teyla and Ronon more.

Anyway, it seems that whatever TPTB and fandom think, John and the others certainly appreciate them. Picking them up on the way in to Atlantis? Both practical and sweet. And I thought it was really adorable how John puts forward the proposition to take Atlantis back, and Ronon looks at Teyla for the cue. I still don't see Ronon and Teyla as a couple (and, thankfully, neither does Jason Momoa or Joe Mallozzi) but I love the dynamic between them.

The John/Teyla angles were fairly strong in this episode - biased though I am. Between John inviting them to Earth and Teyla inviting him to stay with the Athosians, the Athosian-style head-touch in the Gateroom with extra added whisper of "Take care" from John - if he'd spoken it rather than whispered it, then it wouldn't have been half so shippy - and Teyla's "OMG! John!" reaction when he and the others walk out of the darkness in the Athosian camp, I think I'm all shipped out for this ep. Whew!

I'm really interested in how they're going to play out John's future - if they play out John's future. Knowing TPTB, they'll probably just go with "he saves Jack's life and Jack keeps John's head out of the noose" - which works in a typically Stargate-esque kind of way, but is such a cop-out. I want blood! Okay, so I really want consequences, although the odds of getting them are slim to none.

Also, what I want to know is who the hell Ronon was looking at when his eyes slid away from John and Teyla's farewell in the Gateroom. Just because.

This episode was really more of a setup for the next one - with some very nice character interactions.

I have a caps post over at the john_teyla community. The two scenes that are capped are John and Ronon roughhousing in John's room while Teyla laughs at them, and John and Teyla's goodbye in the Gateroom.

I'll get around to making some icons sometime soon. Maybe.

SQUEE!

Comments

[skandrae.livejournal.com]

Also, what I want to know is who the hell Ronon was looking at when his eyes slid away from John and Teyla's farewell in the Gateroom.

He was looking at Elizabeth...really, I swear! And that's part of why she's depressed and hermit-like.

[tielan]

She'd certainly never have gone hermit-like if Ronon had come to Earth. While the other three might accept her personal space, Ronon would go looking for her.

It would be an interesting fic, anyway. :)

[alasse-fae.livejournal.com]

my thought exactly! She was totally acting like she just had a bad breakup...

[ladyjax.livejournal.com]

I finally watched the ep tonight and agree 100% although I must say that the Ancients deserved to have their asses handed to them on a platter.

Okay, they took the city back, they wanted some alone time. Kicking the Athosians out? Now that just sucked beyond belief. Thinking that the replicators were going to just back off and leave them alone because supposedly they had the failsafe core programming? Arrogant and dumb.

Even if Rodney hadn't mucked with their programming, you'd have thought that after 10,000 and realizing that someone (it didn't matter who) was living in Atlantis that the replicators would have started messing about on that programming on their own. If they could build their city up, dollars to donuts, someone was sitting around thinking about how thay could change their basic programming.

[tielan]

Ah well. Nobody accused the Ancients of being smart. Good enough to ascend? Certainly.

Intelligent? Hmmm...not so much.

Then again, aren't the Ancients regularly shown to be fairly...well...smug? Arrogant in their belief that they are right and in no danger of anything going wrong? Makes you wonder how they ever managed to ascend.

[snoggingpicard.livejournal.com]

Yeah, "squee!!!" pretty much summed up my reaction, too. It just kept getting cuter and cuter and cuter, and by the time we hit Carson being worried about his turtles, I was a puddle of fangirlish goo on the floor. Loved it!

And shippy? Much, me thinks. *cough* Very, very skewed in the S/T direction, though there were bits to keep everybody happy. Beyond adorable. :)

[tielan]

Carson and his turtles. *giggles* He was so worried about them, poor guy.

[miera-c.livejournal.com]

I'm dying to know if the Ronon/John hug was scripted or if Jason just ad-libbed it. It seemed like something that maybe wouldn't have been written down.

[tielan]

I was discussing that with allisnow, and she reckons it was ad-libbed by Jason, since the "Oh, my God," comment was more Joe Flanigan than John Sheppard.

Either way - adorable. :)

[terrie01.livejournal.com]

Ronon looking to Teyal fits perfectly with my view of the two of them. But I believe that it's an older sister/younger brother sort of thing.

[tielan]

Yeah, I'm on the sibling-like bandwagon. Teyla seems more like Ronon's handler than a lover.

[majortrip.livejournal.com]

I agree about the head-touvhy thing. He whisper-croaked that "Take care" and it was so much more intimate. Also, he didn't even reach out to shake Ronon's hand or anything. Focus was on Teyla.

I also agree about how Sheppard will get out of disobeying Landy's order. They'll gloss over it, but it's pretty clear that this operation has rogue leaders, and I'd like to see that played out, not just reset.

As far as the Ancients go, I've always found them smug. I like seeing them portrayed as not!wonderful, as to me they rarely contribute much. They just show up, are smug, and can't/won't help with anything. Meh.

[tielan]

It would be really fascinating if they took Atlantis down the "gone rogue" angle. I doubt they would, though - but it would be so interesting to see just how the SGC and Atlantis dealt with it from either end.

Fanfic. Fanfic, fanfic, fanfic...

And, yeah, the focus of that goodbye was very John/Teyla. (*squees, but quietly*)