more Civil War thoughs (and a touch of RL)

[tielan]

ACCURATE CAPSLOCK REVIEW IS ACCURATE - linked to by kore, whose rage at the movie is a wonderful and sanitizing thing for me.

My thoughts on what I was hoping for out of an MCU Civil War, and which Captain America: Civil War failed to provide. It was also in refutation of a Captain Hill shipper who thought Sharon was replaceable in the movie. (She wasn't, but the romance was handled with unspeakable awkwardness.)

At some point, I will write the letter to Marvel Movies in which I indicate why a Black Widow movie will make things worse for female characters in the MCU, and you will all bitch me out, then unfriend me, and then blacken my name throughout the fandom.

But today is not that day.

Today I'm going to finish this ridiculous fic, and make more Maria Hill icons, because for reasons inexplicable to a fan such as myself, there are simply not enough of them around.

And then I'm going to see the chiropractor in the afternoon and get a quote for the fence, because in the midst of fannish frivolity, there must also be management of the mundane.

Comments

[saturnofthemoon]

You mean worse in how even more of the fandom will concentrate on Natasha, while the other ladies get ignored? Not that I don't love Natasha.

[tielan]

That's pretty much the gist of it. And yes, I love Natasha, too, but she's the only female character that matters in the MCU right now, and she has all the connections to all the heroes.

Natasha's already indispensable in the MCU; the time for her movie was in Phase 2 or, at latests, Phase 3. Now, we need breadth of female characters, not depth.

They should be running around making movies about Wanda, and Carol, and Hope, and, yes, MARIA HILL, not panicking that comics movieverse was SO EXCITED by the glimpse of Wonder Woman in Bats vs Supes and thinking they need to jump on the female superhero bandwagon they ignored two years ago because 'people aren't interested in a female superhero movie'.

[saturnofthemoon]

Yeah, this is why I usually request and offer the less popular ladies of the MCU. It also annoys me as a femslasher, because most of the F/F fics in the MCU are Natasha/someone. Natasha/Pepper and Natasha/Maria make sense to me. Everything else is, "I want to see this character with another women, let's bring in Natasha!" Sorry, rant over, I know you're not into f/f.

[tielan]

Hey, no, rant away as needful. Femmeslash is one of those things that I see very specifically - like menslash - but I'm not opposed to it, it's just not a natural fit in my brain.

[shorti]

Capslock review was too funny. And so accurate.

We should turn you single letter into a movement. We should all write to Marvel and show them we're not going to be silent about sidelines female characters anymore. I am still furious about Peggy. Furious.

[tielan]

I suspect the handful of femme-focused-fans who might be roused to such action are too grateful for FINALLY A BLACK WIDOW MOVIE to bestir themselves about the lack of representation for other female characters.

[muccamukk]

I want a Black Widow movie though?

Like, I want it to have the other characters in it too, and I don't think it will make Marvel suddenly feminist, or whatever, but I really do want a Black Widow movie.

And a Captain Marvel movie, and a movie about Hope and Jan Van Dyne, and a SHIELD movie with Maria and Nick as leads, and Wanda movie about redemption, and a SWORD movie about Abigail Brand, and hey a Ms Marvel movie with Kamala, and a Young Avengers movie with Kate and Eli. Oh! and an Isaiah Bradley movie. And a Misty Knight and Colleen Wing tv show.

These are things I'm mostly not going to get, but I do still want them, and also a Black Widow movie.

[tielan]

Well, I never said that I didn't want a Black Widow movie, just that having one now, at this point (and therefore delaying another movie off the Marvel Movie production line - and, let's face it, none of the white guys are going to lose his movie) is going to be more detrimental to female character continuity in the MCU than advantageous.

[muccamukk]

Right, but there's zero chance of that happening anyway. I mean, I want a Nat movie INSTEAD of fucking Spider-Man. I'm not going to get it, but I still want one.

Honestly, the only way it COULD be made worse at this point is if it bumped Carol's movie, which I suppose is possible, but not super likely since we're not getting Black Widow anyway, but honestly they seem to be pretty happy tossing over the female characters whether Natasha gets a movie or not.

They said, "Natasha was crucial to Cap2, so it's like she has a movie" and the same for AoU and CW. While still not including Maria and cutting 70% of Sharon's screen time, and killing and cancelling Peggy in the same week. The only difference I can see it making is that I'd have a Black Widow movie, which, yay!

[tielan]

I figured, if they're going to do a Black Widow movie, it'll bump Carol's movie. Which is why I made my comment on breadth rather than depth at this point, and how a Black Widow movie might make the Natasha fans happy, but wouldn't be a win for women in the MCU.