SGA - 4.04 - Doppelganger

[tielan]

I really liked this episode. Even with the you-know-what, it was good. ZOMG! TEAM!

Oh, Coop, why is it that you can write brilliantly and yet suck so very much at times???

Cute team banter at the start involving everyone! Woohoo!

"If your problem persists, please see your doctor." (Oh, wait, that's Keller.) "This would be easier if you lay down." (So I can ravish you at my leisure.)

Joe Flanigan does creepy really well. In fact, everyone did some really awesome acting in this episode, but Joe Flanigan particularly - EvilJohn vs. GoodJohn.

I rather like how they used both Keller and Sam in this episode. Although more Keller than Sam. Except for the scene where Keller tells Sam the speech was good. That was awkward. The ending would have been nice with just the team, but was still cute.

*sigh* Killing Kate was cold, though. Really cold. I mean, I had heard a spoiler, so it didn't shock me as much as it might, but...

Incidentally, several people have complained why Teyla said "I cannot wake her" rather than acknowledging that Kate was dead. Honestly, peoples - do you really want to be the one who pronounces your friend dead? It's a classic "I don't want to face this" line. Euphemism as denial.

You know, for someone who doesn't like slash, RCC is really good at doing slashy angles. Then again, one of my associates noted that normal viewers don't see everything through slash goggles.

On the whole, I liked the John-trying-to-help-Rodney angle, the whale, the clown, and John vs. John.

Rodney's "I'm pretty screwed up" and "I thought there'd be more hot girls" vs John's "Tell me about it" and "Me, too." *sporfle*

OMG! TEAM ENDING!!! TEAM ENDING!!!

My favourite episode so far this season.

Comments

[allisnow.livejournal.com]

My favourite episode so far this season.

Me too!

And omg, you didn't even mention the ship! *slaps you*

[tielan]

We hold these truths to be self-evident - that John and Teyla are practically considered a pair by everyone else on the show!

[allisnow.livejournal.com]

Hee!

[tielan]

Well, they are!!

It's interesting to see the variety of reactions to the episode, even off my f-list.

[alliesings.livejournal.com]

For the Win!

Now I want that on an icon: We hold these truths to be self-evident.

[madjm.livejournal.com]

Word to everything you said. And I love how Ronon is a shipper, even in Teyla's dreams!

I hate that they killed Kate, though. Harsh.

[tielan]

It seemed unnecessary, you know? I mean, a coma might have done the same thing - conveyed the same urgency without terminating a character entirely.

So, how're those plotbunnies breeding, then?

[madjm.livejournal.com]

So, how're those plotbunnies breeding, then?

Well, one does wonder what happened after the hug …

[tielan]

Go forth! Write!

[allisnow.livejournal.com]

HAWT COMFORT SECKS!

[madjm.livejournal.com]

Woot!

[rebirth7.livejournal.com]

Cute team banter at the start involving everyone! Woohoo!

Finally, TEAMWORK! Maybe the writers are finally wising up! One can only hope.

This episode is my favorite also!

[tielan]

Well, they wised up in this episode, anyway. We can only hope for others...

[saeva.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I took the "I cannot wake her"face value. At that point they had a pretty good sense that whatever was going on was transfered through touch and without touch, or a lifespans monitor, you cannot confirm that someone is dead. Teyla couldn't be sure Kate was dead without touching her and couldn't touch her because if Kate was infected it would transfer back to her. Simple enough.

[tielan]

Aha! The logical response.

That completely didn't occur to me. I just saw a couple of people comment that Teyla should know about dead and the line wasn't very 'her' in the context.

[darkrosetiger.livejournal.com]

Incidentally, several people have complained why Teyla said "I cannot wake her" rather than acknowledging that Kate was dead. Honestly, peoples - do you really want to be the one who pronounces your friend dead? It's a classic "I don't want to face this" line. Euphemism as denial.

People complained about that? Teyla was clearly upset; I thought it was obvious that she didn't want to say the words.

And I'm glad I'm not the only one who was unhappy they killed Kate off.

[tielan]

I daresay there were a lot of people who were unhappy about Kate. Her death certainly wasn't necessary in the context of the story - a coma would have had the same kind of effect on the group: the realisation that these aren't just dreams, this is getting scarily close to reality.

Then again, it may be that they felt they'd done that with Lorne and his offer to shoot Shep.

Dammit, they really need to work on their pool of "available characters to kill off".

[isaysquee.livejournal.com]

My favourite episode so far this season.

Amen. I've already watched it six times. I see something new each time I watch it. :)

I got confused with the whole Kate-dying thing actually. I wasn't sure if it was still a dream or not... since Kate's death was not really from her perspective until she fell.

[tielan]

Yeah, I thought the dream perspective was a little odd, too. And the way it unfolded meant there was doubt as to whether Teyla dreamed it as well, or whether it was just Kate's dream of Teyla, and Teyla just happened to be the person who found her.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that Kate's death made Rodney's "death" more of an impact on John. It also provided a contrast between Teyla's going to John for comfort and Teyla turning on John in the aftermath of Rodney's death. I don't think a coma would have had the same effect. The episodes have really rocked this season so far, yes?!

[allisnow.livejournal.com]

My favourite episode so far this season.

Me too!

And omg, you didn't even mention the ship! *slaps you*

[tielan]

We hold these truths to be self-evident - that John and Teyla are practically considered a pair by everyone else on the show!

[allisnow.livejournal.com]

Hee!

[tielan]

Well, they are!!

It's interesting to see the variety of reactions to the episode, even off my f-list.

[alliesings.livejournal.com]

For the Win!

Now I want that on an icon: We hold these truths to be self-evident.

[madjm.livejournal.com]

Word to everything you said. And I love how Ronon is a shipper, even in Teyla's dreams!

I hate that they killed Kate, though. Harsh.

[tielan]

It seemed unnecessary, you know? I mean, a coma might have done the same thing - conveyed the same urgency without terminating a character entirely.

So, how're those plotbunnies breeding, then?

[madjm.livejournal.com]

So, how're those plotbunnies breeding, then?

Well, one does wonder what happened after the hug …

[tielan]

Go forth! Write!

[allisnow.livejournal.com]

HAWT COMFORT SECKS!

[madjm.livejournal.com]

Woot!

[rebirth7.livejournal.com]

Cute team banter at the start involving everyone! Woohoo!

Finally, TEAMWORK! Maybe the writers are finally wising up! One can only hope.

This episode is my favorite also!

[tielan]

Well, they wised up in this episode, anyway. We can only hope for others...

[saeva.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I took the "I cannot wake her"face value. At that point they had a pretty good sense that whatever was going on was transfered through touch and without touch, or a lifespans monitor, you cannot confirm that someone is dead. Teyla couldn't be sure Kate was dead without touching her and couldn't touch her because if Kate was infected it would transfer back to her. Simple enough.

[tielan]

Aha! The logical response.

That completely didn't occur to me. I just saw a couple of people comment that Teyla should know about dead and the line wasn't very 'her' in the context.

[darkrosetiger.livejournal.com]

Incidentally, several people have complained why Teyla said "I cannot wake her" rather than acknowledging that Kate was dead. Honestly, peoples - do you really want to be the one who pronounces your friend dead? It's a classic "I don't want to face this" line. Euphemism as denial.

People complained about that? Teyla was clearly upset; I thought it was obvious that she didn't want to say the words.

And I'm glad I'm not the only one who was unhappy they killed Kate off.

[tielan]

I daresay there were a lot of people who were unhappy about Kate. Her death certainly wasn't necessary in the context of the story - a coma would have had the same kind of effect on the group: the realisation that these aren't just dreams, this is getting scarily close to reality.

Then again, it may be that they felt they'd done that with Lorne and his offer to shoot Shep.

Dammit, they really need to work on their pool of "available characters to kill off".

[isaysquee.livejournal.com]

My favourite episode so far this season.

Amen. I've already watched it six times. I see something new each time I watch it. :)

I got confused with the whole Kate-dying thing actually. I wasn't sure if it was still a dream or not... since Kate's death was not really from her perspective until she fell.

[tielan]

Yeah, I thought the dream perspective was a little odd, too. And the way it unfolded meant there was doubt as to whether Teyla dreamed it as well, or whether it was just Kate's dream of Teyla, and Teyla just happened to be the person who found her.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that Kate's death made Rodney's "death" more of an impact on John. It also provided a contrast between Teyla's going to John for comfort and Teyla turning on John in the aftermath of Rodney's death. I don't think a coma would have had the same effect. The episodes have really rocked this season so far, yes?!