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Tuesday, June 22nd, 2010 05:08 pm
"Some concerns" ≠ "never ever write this"

Being asked to be thoughtful is not censoring free speech, harshing squee, or pissing in the sandbox.

It is not more oppressive to be asked to be considerate of others than it is to be the subject of systemic oppression.

Write whatever the fuck you like. But write it with thoughtfulness and respect for those for whom your "fictional situation" is a fact of daily life.

If you don't write it with thoughtfulness and respect, expect to get called on it.

Getting called on your lack of respect is far from the worst thing in the world that will ever happen to you.

Embarrassment and regret are not terminal. Nor is apologising.
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Tuesday, June 22nd, 2010 09:25 am (UTC)
I think I might write these down and post them on my wall board.

They're seriously important to be kept in mind.
Tuesday, June 22nd, 2010 01:20 pm (UTC)
I really agree.

As I've seen more and more of this conversation, though, and seen this same sentiment expressed over and over, and tried to understand the other side -- because what you're saying seems very obvious to me, but it's addressing, at least in part, a fear I've seen expressed by people I like, and one I've also felt myself -- I have to say that I think part of the problem isn't just with people who are reacting with a knee-jerk, "if you're going to act like this I'm never going to risk it," but with people for whom writing starts off hard and risky, and gets harder the riskier it is, and who sometimes see what looks to them like a pretty terrifyingly internet-wide smackdown delivered to someone who, many of the people smacking her down agree, wrote the very same kind of story that Hollywood delivers Oscars for.

Getting called on your lack of respect isn't the worst thing that will happen to you, but if "getting called on" = "what feels like the entire internet calling you a shitty human being who should die", and "lack of respect" = "for something you really did try on, but apparently didn't succeed", I can see how that might make it really difficult to go there.

And embarrassment and regret aren't terminal, nor is apologizing. But embarrassment alone is a very, very strong disincentive for a lot of us, and is something we struggle with even when writing a story that doesn't include the need to be smarter than Hollywood in order to avoid having what feels like the entire internet calling you a shitty human being who should die. I can get writer's block because I a make a mistake at work that's totally unrelated to what I'm writing, because it's so damned embarrassing and I can't get past that. Embarrassment = me not writing. When I'm considering the possibility that people I like and respect, as well as the rest of the internet, will descend on my story to tell me I'm a horrible, stupid, thoughtless, or even malicious human being, knowing that embarrassment isn't terminal doesn't actually make it any easier to put hands to keyboard, and knowing that "try to be respectful" does not equal "succeed at being respectful" or even "get the smallest benefit of the doubt that maybe you did try" doesn't help.

Understanding that someone might be scared off of writing characters of color because of these issues does not imply wanting other people to hush or even to moderate their rhetoric. I guess I'm starting to get a little reactive, though, to the amount of contempt I've seen for the idea that the possibility of getting a reaction like gatorgrrrl got is enough to make some people afraid to try. I agree that it shouldn't, just like I agree that making a mistake at work shouldn't throw my writing into a tailspin. But that doesn't actually do anything to make it so.
Tuesday, June 22nd, 2010 11:32 pm (UTC)
And I'm not disagreeing with you.

What I am saying is that I understand why that's too much for some people to contemplate, and that I'm getting sensitive to the implication that if you're one of those people, you're A) not trying, B) a coward, C) lying, or D) all of the above.

To say that because I can get past my fears, everyone should be able to, would be at the very least an incorrect statement.
Wednesday, June 23rd, 2010 01:56 am (UTC)
*nodsnods* I agree, a lot of them probably are, and that's a huge problem. It's just, not all of them are. Some people are more afraid of hurting someone accidentally, and some are afraid of hurting someone and afraid of being excoriated, but there's a lot of lumping people together and assuming the worst going on, on pretty much every side of, well, pretty much everything in the world right now, not just the internets, and it's all very human and understandable, and I don't know how we can really be expected to do otherwise under some circumstances, but...I can't always deal with it.