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MGM giveth and MGM taketh away!
And all the fans said: "A plague on both your franchises!"
Maybe not quite, but you must admit, the timing is...well...atrocious. Clearly TPTB didn't learn too well from Jonas and Season Six: don't introduce the new guy at the same time as you boot the old out the door. Big mistake. Big. Huge.
Anyway, the Stargate: Universe series sounds...um...like Stargate: Voyager. Except with a 'younger, hipper cast' (did anyone else think of Marty whathisname from the SG1 episode "200" or was it just me? That sequence cracked me up - and the team's responses on top of that - BWAH!) and I have a really bad feeling about this blurb.
*facepalm*
I'll give it a fair chance - as I've told various people today. Brad Wright has always been one of my favourite PTB, and not quite as...shall we say 'forthright' as JoeM? Plus, he once hugged![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
allisnow, and how could we possibly not like him for furnishing us with five years' worth of teasing opportunities? *starts putting on the flameproof suit* As long as they don't suddenly discover how they can get back to Earth at the end of Season One. *puts on the helmet and fastens it up tight* And it would help if the lead wasn't a white male but, you know, someone outside the traditional sci-fi tropes. *tugs on the gloves* But right now, a part of me is dancing a jig in the background and tunelessly singing, "Mock, mock, mockity-mock!"
And now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go hide from Alli.
*waves the icon to distract Alli, then jogs off*
And all the fans said: "A plague on both your franchises!"
Maybe not quite, but you must admit, the timing is...well...atrocious. Clearly TPTB didn't learn too well from Jonas and Season Six: don't introduce the new guy at the same time as you boot the old out the door. Big mistake. Big. Huge.
Anyway, the Stargate: Universe series sounds...um...like Stargate: Voyager. Except with a 'younger, hipper cast' (did anyone else think of Marty whathisname from the SG1 episode "200" or was it just me? That sequence cracked me up - and the team's responses on top of that - BWAH!) and I have a really bad feeling about this blurb.
*facepalm*
I'll give it a fair chance - as I've told various people today. Brad Wright has always been one of my favourite PTB, and not quite as...shall we say 'forthright' as JoeM? Plus, he once hugged
allisnow, and how could we possibly not like him for furnishing us with five years' worth of teasing opportunities? *starts putting on the flameproof suit* As long as they don't suddenly discover how they can get back to Earth at the end of Season One. *puts on the helmet and fastens it up tight* And it would help if the lead wasn't a white male but, you know, someone outside the traditional sci-fi tropes. *tugs on the gloves* But right now, a part of me is dancing a jig in the background and tunelessly singing, "Mock, mock, mockity-mock!"And now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go hide from Alli.
*waves the icon to distract Alli, then jogs off*
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I pretty much agree with everything you said here about the upcoming show...
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And the last time TPTB tried to do two shows...well, the less said about that, the better.
Honestly, though, introducing the new a mere day after booting out the old? People are still getting over the loss of SGA - give them a couple of weeks, *then* announce the greenlight of SGU.
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I think the financial considerations are the main reason, though I don't think it took a lot of convincing to get the production to move onto new things. What I'm waiting to find out, considering one of the money issues is the fact that the show is made in Canada - no longer a cheap option like it once was - is if the show is moved back into the United States now.
And the last time TPTB tried to do two shows...well, the less said about that, the better.
Oh yes... *whistles*
Honestly, though, introducing the new a mere day after booting out the old? People are still getting over the loss of SGA - give them a couple of weeks, *then* announce the greenlight of SGU.
I feel a total fraud for saying this, since I lack this particular interpersonal skill myself, but it was particularly tactless on their part...
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Seriously, I've got a ton of driving to do over the next day, so I might as well.
- Helen
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In reality, not-so-much I don't think.
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The captain is going to be Maddie Fitzpatrick. Right now, she's a sixteen-year-old candy counter girl at the Tipton Hotel in Boston, but, honestly, she could run anything.
A complication of Maddie's life is that her oops-how-did-this-happen best friend is London Tipton, heir to the Tipton fortune, who is useless, except when she isn't. Somehow, she'll be along for the ride, to learn the Lesson of the Week.
I'm wonder whether or not Kim Possible should be along. She'd make a great team leader, but she might be TOO good.
Then there's Raven Baxter, who I'm not such a fan of, but she can see the future (albeit unreliably) and this might come in handy if they ever have to do blind DHD dials. Her goal in life is to become a fashion designer, but I think she could learn to aim a blaster.
Oh, and I just thought of the science officer! I was going to go with Sadie Hawthorne (from Naturally, Sadie) but my kids don't watch that anymore so I've lost her voice. Instead, I think I'll import the entire main six characters, plus little brother, from Zoe 101 - maybe I'll even have the sixteen-year-old star bring along her real-life infant! (Did that make the news outside the US?)
Yeah, this could be fun.
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Hee. Yeah, that's never what I want to hear. It always seems to mean 'young actors chosen for the pretty instead of the ability to act' and 'stories written to showcase the prettiness and hipness rather than to be interesting or make sense.' :)) Although, if they're wanting something BSG-like, it may just mean...younger.
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The thing is...these writers can't write BSG-like. Especially not if they're writing without character bibles.
It would crash and burn like a crashy and burny thing. *sigh*
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It's not like I'm all, "OMG, they are MURDERING my fave show evah!" But the only reason I was still watch SGA is because I like Teyla. I'm not really interested in seeing the same stories rehashed a third time. Or more than that, since (as you say), it sure does sound a lot like "Voyager." With like a younger, hipper cast.
Yawn.
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I like your idea of the lead not being a white male. That would definitely be something new. Though I don't know what 'big name' I would like to see in the stargate franchise...
I wonder what kind of resident alien they will have...
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That's the thing. SGA devolved into SG1 repeated, when it could have broken away. The idea was sound, the execution failed.
I fear that will be the same situation in this case. Bonus points if they don't, but their own history is against them.
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I thought the exact same thing about the "teen movie" bit from '200'! The "aiming for a younger audience" bit is never a good sign. I'll give it a chance, since it promises increased Space Porn, but I'm not getting my hopes up. And I, too, am desperately hoping that they don't reestablish contact with Earth this time.
Maybe if the concept is good enough, there will be some fic where the Atlantis people end up on this Destiny ship. AU FTW!
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It was more than that, though. It was the lack of conflict between civilisations and cultures on anything other than technological acumen and how to fight the Wraith.
You've mentioned the episode where Atlantis has to 'stand trial' for their sins against the PEgasus galaxy. I have no faith that this episode will turn out in any way to be truly critical of the city, Darth, or the Atlantis expedition. It simply isn't in TPTB to make their hero characters 'wrong', or to have them face consequences.
In the end, the Pegasus natives are almost certainly going to say, "We're sorry for doubting you, we see that your intentions are good, and the millions of people who have died because you woke the Wraith, condemned the Hoffans, created Michael, and now harbour the very child that could be our downfall don't matter in the face of Earth's technology and wisdom and above all their good intentions and good hearts."
It's what TPTB do.
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I pretty much agree with everything you said here about the upcoming show...
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And the last time TPTB tried to do two shows...well, the less said about that, the better.
Honestly, though, introducing the new a mere day after booting out the old? People are still getting over the loss of SGA - give them a couple of weeks, *then* announce the greenlight of SGU.
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I think the financial considerations are the main reason, though I don't think it took a lot of convincing to get the production to move onto new things. What I'm waiting to find out, considering one of the money issues is the fact that the show is made in Canada - no longer a cheap option like it once was - is if the show is moved back into the United States now.
And the last time TPTB tried to do two shows...well, the less said about that, the better.
Oh yes... *whistles*
Honestly, though, introducing the new a mere day after booting out the old? People are still getting over the loss of SGA - give them a couple of weeks, *then* announce the greenlight of SGU.
I feel a total fraud for saying this, since I lack this particular interpersonal skill myself, but it was particularly tactless on their part...
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Seriously, I've got a ton of driving to do over the next day, so I might as well.
- Helen
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In reality, not-so-much I don't think.
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The captain is going to be Maddie Fitzpatrick. Right now, she's a sixteen-year-old candy counter girl at the Tipton Hotel in Boston, but, honestly, she could run anything.
A complication of Maddie's life is that her oops-how-did-this-happen best friend is London Tipton, heir to the Tipton fortune, who is useless, except when she isn't. Somehow, she'll be along for the ride, to learn the Lesson of the Week.
I'm wonder whether or not Kim Possible should be along. She'd make a great team leader, but she might be TOO good.
Then there's Raven Baxter, who I'm not such a fan of, but she can see the future (albeit unreliably) and this might come in handy if they ever have to do blind DHD dials. Her goal in life is to become a fashion designer, but I think she could learn to aim a blaster.
Oh, and I just thought of the science officer! I was going to go with Sadie Hawthorne (from Naturally, Sadie) but my kids don't watch that anymore so I've lost her voice. Instead, I think I'll import the entire main six characters, plus little brother, from Zoe 101 - maybe I'll even have the sixteen-year-old star bring along her real-life infant! (Did that make the news outside the US?)
Yeah, this could be fun.
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Hee. Yeah, that's never what I want to hear. It always seems to mean 'young actors chosen for the pretty instead of the ability to act' and 'stories written to showcase the prettiness and hipness rather than to be interesting or make sense.' :)) Although, if they're wanting something BSG-like, it may just mean...younger.
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The thing is...these writers can't write BSG-like. Especially not if they're writing without character bibles.
It would crash and burn like a crashy and burny thing. *sigh*
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It's not like I'm all, "OMG, they are MURDERING my fave show evah!" But the only reason I was still watch SGA is because I like Teyla. I'm not really interested in seeing the same stories rehashed a third time. Or more than that, since (as you say), it sure does sound a lot like "Voyager." With like a younger, hipper cast.
Yawn.
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I like your idea of the lead not being a white male. That would definitely be something new. Though I don't know what 'big name' I would like to see in the stargate franchise...
I wonder what kind of resident alien they will have...
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That's the thing. SGA devolved into SG1 repeated, when it could have broken away. The idea was sound, the execution failed.
I fear that will be the same situation in this case. Bonus points if they don't, but their own history is against them.
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I thought the exact same thing about the "teen movie" bit from '200'! The "aiming for a younger audience" bit is never a good sign. I'll give it a chance, since it promises increased Space Porn, but I'm not getting my hopes up. And I, too, am desperately hoping that they don't reestablish contact with Earth this time.
Maybe if the concept is good enough, there will be some fic where the Atlantis people end up on this Destiny ship. AU FTW!
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It was more than that, though. It was the lack of conflict between civilisations and cultures on anything other than technological acumen and how to fight the Wraith.
You've mentioned the episode where Atlantis has to 'stand trial' for their sins against the PEgasus galaxy. I have no faith that this episode will turn out in any way to be truly critical of the city, Darth, or the Atlantis expedition. It simply isn't in TPTB to make their hero characters 'wrong', or to have them face consequences.
In the end, the Pegasus natives are almost certainly going to say, "We're sorry for doubting you, we see that your intentions are good, and the millions of people who have died because you woke the Wraith, condemned the Hoffans, created Michael, and now harbour the very child that could be our downfall don't matter in the face of Earth's technology and wisdom and above all their good intentions and good hearts."
It's what TPTB do.
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